[Vasudan Admiral]

i have seen them being talked about somewhere in this place, but couldn't find it when i need it. typical
anyway, i have made a small transport model which looks pretty cool, but it's hull is parented to a "detail0" phantom object. it probably means it will crash if i try activating the turrets.
how do i glue the four turrets on without there being a phantom object forming from the group detail0? currently i select them all, then glue them to the hull in one go as a sibling. it won't let me glue them as anything else. BTW they are single part turrets

[Petrarch of the VBB]

All I can say is this:
Vasudan Escape pods are never used to evacuate personell, only data and records, and second, an Admiral would never leave his ship. If it were destroyed, he would die with it!

[Unknown Target]

[Pera]

I have to admit I thought I was knew FS modelling pretty well, but even after reading through the first post several times, I still don't understand what you mean.

Could you copy/paste the truespace hierarchy tree here?

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
i have seen them being talked about somewhere in this place, but couldn't find it when i need it. typical
anyway, i have made a small transport model which looks pretty cool, but it's hull is parented to a "detail0" phantom object. it probably means it will crash if i try activating the turrets.
how do i glue the four turrets on without there being a phantom object forming from the group detail0? currently i select them all, then glue them to the hull in one go as a sibling. it won't let me glue them as anything else. BTW they are single part turrets

Um.... are you gluing a light to the detail0 hull?  If so, don't.  Also, try gluing each turret/light combo individually (click hull, click turret, click hull, click turret, etc).... I think the group of turrets could create such an empty object.

[Unknown Target]

Could you reform that into actual sentences?

[Vasudan Admiral]

Vasudan Escape pods are never used to evacuate personell, only data and records, and second, an Admiral would never leave his ship. If it were destroyed, he would die with it!

does that really matter? it was just a thought i had for location. i am in sydney if you really wanna know.

I have to admit I thought I was knew FS modelling pretty well, but even after reading through the first post several times, I still don't understand what you mean.

Could you copy/paste the truespace hierarchy tree here?

what i mean is that in modelview, i click the main hull in sub-object editor and it says it has a parent object-detail0.
i can't copy & paste the ts heirarchy, so i will do my best to copy it.
anything in brakets is a description.

Scene
|
|--detail0 (first lod group)
|      |
|      |--0 (main hull)
|      |
|      |--turret01
|      |      |
|      |      |--turret (turret model)
|      |      |
|      |      |--LocLight,2 (the light glued to the object)
|      |      
|      |--turret02
|      |      |
|      |      |--turret (turret model)
|      |      |
|      |      |--LocLight,2 (the light glued to the object)
|     \/(other two turrets)
|
|--detail1 (second lod group)
|      |
|      |--0 (second lod model)
|      |
|      |--LocLight,2
\/
(third lod-same as second)
/\
|--debris1 (changed to 01 in modview-first debris group of three)
|      |
|      |--debris (first debris model)
|      |
|      |--LocLight,2
(goes on with two more debris pieces)
to answer aldo, no, i'm not gluing a light to detail0. and how would i glue each one to the hull without the second turret being a sibling of the first group, and the third a sibling of the first group and second turret?

[Pera]

Don't you have turrets glued in the LOD:s?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral
does that really matter? it was just a thought i had for location. i am in sydney if you really wanna know.

Yes, It does matter, you have to be accurate, you know.

[Redfang]

Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB


Yes, It does matter, you have to be accurate, you know.

 
Yeah, right.
 
Where did he say that it was going to be an escape pod?

[Vasudan Admiral]

<----location
and no i don't glue turrets to lods volition didn't.
and for some reason when i re-converted it it is fine. and i can't remember what i did. errrr

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral

and how would i glue each one to the hull without the second turret being a sibling of the first group, and the third a sibling of the first group and second turret?

Well, what I read you as doing is gluing all the turret (model-light groups) together as sibling before gluing that group to the hull model.

[Vasudan Admiral]

mabey. if i fiddle for long enough it seems to work. strange.

[IPAndrews]

For god's sake people, use Truespace's Trueview extention. It makes things much easier.

[karajorma]

Doesn`t that only come with TS4 and above?

If you have TS4 though, it is great. I use it myself

[Vasudan Admiral]

where is the true view thing? the keyframe animator is pretty lame.

[Anaz]

tell us where it is, and we'll use it...

[karajorma]

Left click on the Truespace eXtensions button(it's next to the buttons for Quad divide, mirror and polygon reduction). A new dock will open. Click on the Trueview Heirarchy editor.

You can now drag and drop objects until the heirachy is good.

[Vasudan Admiral]

if you don't have it, http://truespacez.virtualave.net/tru_plugs.htm you can get some other plug-in's there but they aren't much use. oh, and BTW in case anyone is wondering, it is free check the readme

[Anaz]

lol...I lost the button...but I found it again, and I already have trueview...