[S-99]

What's with the attitude? He's closed the fundraiser, and if he wanted to invent a story to try and fleece money from people, I'm sure he could easily do a lot better than this one.

And did you even read the article you presented? Living in such squalor is downright unhealthy.

You'll live only a couple of steps up from on the street, and have to hope you manage to stay sharp and healthy enough to successfully pass a college degree. Oh, and hope you don't get booted out of the college if they find out you're living in a vehicle.

You act like i have not only not read the article but have not lived in such squalor, let alone people fleecing me. Given nakuras supposed reputation around here, he only leaves me thinking and feeling very suspicious of him.

No, i posted an article i haven't read. God forbid i reference something about somebody helping themselves that may not pertain to somebody helping themselves.

[Lorric]

Given nakuras supposed reputation around here, he only leaves me thinking and feeling very suspicious of him.

So you're basing this on a supposed reputation, and nothing else. Use your own mind to judge him. How would you feel if someone judged you on nothing but a supposed reputation? And I would venture to guess Nakura's reputation isn't even bad anymore. He had a difficult start on HLP. That's it.

[S-99]

Well, i'm glad to hear that his supposed reputation has cleared up. I was using his supposed reputation as caution for what he could've possibly been somebody who just wanted free money.

Offering proof of the situation his cousin was in was more or less something him and his cousin didn't want to do. Let alone proof of the end result of his cousin thankfully no longer in a bad situation. And even if so called proof even meant a damn in the first or last place as anything could be manufactured to put on the internet from people that we don't know terribly many details about other than text on these forums.

This is a deal totally based on hoping the other person does what they actually say they will do with the help. Most of the time, a lot of these deals go sour and someone made off with your stuff. Luckily in this case it would have been a few dollars if anybody were to have donated. I'm not much of one to believe and follow hope. A sob story and hope is ripe for taking advantage of peoples compassion to steal. Collateral is usually a good thing, but there's no collateral to be had on a forum.

I'm not trying to judge. His supposed reputation was extra information to try to gauge if it was a risky situation that was possibly suspicious. I was being quite critical since i have a lot of experience dealing with peoples "good word".

I posted the article because i thought it was a perfect example of a college student who was in debt desiring to continue school going through hard times working his ass off just to be debt free and finish school. I wasn't intending it as a route for his cousin to go down, but as an example of the best pest person in the world to help you is yourself. I doubt other people read the article i posted when asked if i read it or not We're people figuring i linked to porn without knowing or something? Or figured i just saw something shiny and journalistic with a lot of text for everyone to click on and amaze at how many words there are in amazement like watching fireworks. No, it's just an article that was an example of someone working hard to help themselves.

[Lorric]

You didn't need to say the stuff you did, even if you were suspicious. Especially with the fundraiser closed. All you had to do was post the article and advice and leave it at that.

[S-99]

I am sorry and will just post the article next time.

[Lorric]

I am sorry and will just post the article next time.

Nice. I'm glad you understand.

[General Battuta]

Well, i'm glad to hear that his supposed reputation has cleared up. I was using his supposed reputation as caution for what he could've possibly been somebody who just wanted free money.

Offering proof of the situation his cousin was in was more or less something him and his cousin didn't want to do. Let alone proof of the end result of his cousin thankfully no longer in a bad situation. And even if so called proof even meant a damn in the first or last place as anything could be manufactured to put on the internet from people that we don't know terribly many details about other than text on these forums.

This is a deal totally based on hoping the other person does what they actually say they will do with the help. Most of the time, a lot of these deals go sour and someone made off with your stuff. Luckily in this case it would have been a few dollars if anybody were to have donated. I'm not much of one to believe and follow hope. A sob story and hope is ripe for taking advantage of peoples compassion to steal. Collateral is usually a good thing, but there's no collateral to be had on a forum.

I'm not trying to judge. His supposed reputation was extra information to try to gauge if it was a risky situation that was possibly suspicious. I was being quite critical since i have a lot of experience dealing with peoples "good word".

I posted the article because i thought it was a perfect example of a college student who was in debt desiring to continue school going through hard times working his ass off just to be debt free and finish school. I wasn't intending it as a route for his cousin to go down, but as an example of the best pest person in the world to help you is yourself. I doubt other people read the article i posted when asked if i read it or not We're people figuring i linked to porn without knowing or something? Or figured i just saw something shiny and journalistic with a lot of text for everyone to click on and amaze at how many words there are in amazement like watching fireworks. No, it's just an article that was an example of someone working hard to help themselves.

This is a completely reasonable response, and don't let anyone bully you into thinking otherwise. There are a lot of ways to help people that don't require you to risk your own financial well-being, and you have every right to be cautious.

[Lorric]

This is a completely reasonable response, and don't let anyone bully you into thinking otherwise. There are a lot of ways to help people that don't require you to risk your own financial well-being, and you have every right to be cautious.

Are you calling me a bully?

[General Battuta]

No, I just think you should be careful about coming down on people as hateful or wrong. You've done a lot of telling people what to do and how to feel, and I think you should consider where others are coming from and what that might have experienced, too. It's easy to leap to judgments.

[Lorric]

No, I just think you should be careful about coming down on people as hateful or wrong. You've done a lot of telling people what to do and how to feel, and I think you should consider where others are coming from and what that might have experienced, too. It's easy to leap to judgments.

I didn't "come down on him." We talked, and came to an understanding.

I'll pm you soon for some other stuff.

[S-99]

I came to a different understanding since then. What i will still try to do is be nicer by involving more of this concept i haven't cared about (and even forgot) for a long time "benefit of the doubt". I didn't give any, if hardly even ever, benefit of the doubt.

[Lorric]

I came to a different understanding since then.

Hm?

[S-99]

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but please reread my previous post. I added to it shortly after i posted. And then you promptly showed up

[Lorric]

I'm not trying to be an asshole, but please reread my previous post. I added to it shortly after i posted. And then you promptly showed up

Yes! Benefit of the doubt. It sounds like you've come to a deeper and better understanding since.

[S-99]

THERE, i thought i hit reply instead of modify (previous post has been restored).
Me and you did come to an understanding that I didn't have to say some of the stuff i said. But, i will always still say this stuff. This is never going to change. What can be done one way can be done better the next. I apologized because i realized there is something else i can do, saying that stuff better with benefit of the doubt. I'm pretty much devoid of it. Because i've seen benefit of the doubt a weakness for being taken advantage of. I saw this so much in my youth, i became tempered without it.

I was overly critical of nakura because of my own experiences with being fleeced and taken for a fool. I'm a really nice guy. If you're my friend that i trust. I'll give you the shirt off my back, you can even borrow my car for a trip, you can borrow $100 (as long as you pay me back), you can stay at my place and eat my food, and you'll probably be sent home with stuff that i don't want or even need anymore. The thing i have learned though, is that being taken for a fool is a lot closer than we all realize. It's pretty darn close, i'm talking about close friends and close family members ****ing you over here. For years i have been ready for and expelling the outer people who would take you for a fool and leave you with nothing. But, in the past two years, i had damn near all my close friends i knew for years doing this to me. Bad car deals, not owning up to debts, keeping what i let be borrowed, returning my stuff destroyed. By my close friends in alaska in the past two years, i am the only honest non-mother****er there is who would never do this to anybody. I left alaska and my old job because of this. Damn near everyone except my mechanics family had betrayed my trust and taken advantage. I am friendless and alone right now and happier for it currently. My old friends were distraught when i told them all i don't want to keep in touch and leave me be (i bet they were distraught since they're a bunch of ****s who can't help themselves). Those ****s all cost me 4 cars, a lot of stalking, $2500 in cash over those two years One mother****er left a car i let him borrow (it's rare when someone gets to borrow a car of mine) parked in back of a gas station for 3 weeks, it's stolen, it's gone (there's $900 down the hole). I guess when you're poor, you're still entitled to unlimited cell phone plans, internet, satellite tv, guns even. Stupid ****s they all are. They get no benefit of the doubt from me for sure since they have demonstrated why.

I'm not going to stop being cautious or overly suspicious of people. I will however, try to incorporate benefit of the doubt. But, yourself please realize i wasn't judging nakura, i did agree with you that stuff could be said better. And for me stuff can be said better through benefit of the doubt. But, this will be in limitation. The planet is full of a bunch of ****wads, and i will never stop helping others (i refuse to be a bastard like the rest). I just have to do it differently every time.

But, please, don't rip my head off when i'm taking stuff into cold consideration just because you didn't like the way something sounded. Well, that's just great for the other humans out there who stop listening as soon as they hear something they don't like, but i still have to pay attention to them, but they don't have to pay attention to me? I can be a jackass at times but at least i demonstrate that i try not to be premature and try to always understand, and that i always listen. I just hope your friends are really your friends. And now you all understand why i was so critical of nakura asking for money. I could be today $6000 richer (don't forget those 4 cars) than i presently am. Try to realize that when i say i have been screwed over, and have used that in reference when analyzing the situation, i urge that others do what i have to do every day, listen and understand, and not just simply not like something because of the way it was said, try not to over react, and be calm. God, i've had to put up with so much **** over the years, more than just being taken advantage of i promise.

[Lorric]

That's a very sad story. To see such kindness abused like that and thus spoiled for anyone else who might deserve it and share it with you, and your trust in others destroyed. I hope you find someone who won't abuse your trust and will be the friend you deserve.

I think I see what you are saying you're going to do, correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying you won't voice such opinions, but it won't stop you thinking them, and it won't stop you giving benefit of the doubt? That's fine. The kind of comments you gave Nakura would hurt if he is being truthful you see. But if you keep the thoughts to yourself, then he won't get hurt, and you can still think as you please.

[S-99]

I think I see what you are saying you're going to do, correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying you won't voice such opinions, but it won't stop you thinking them, and it won't stop you giving benefit of the doubt? That's fine. The kind of comments you gave Nakura would hurt if he is being truthful you see. But if you keep the thoughts to yourself, then he won't get hurt, and you can still think as you please.

Close, i said i won't stop voicing such opinions and that this will even never change, but with benefit of the doubt i know i can make them less painful. Now, if we kept everything to ourselves. There wouldn't be a forum here.

[Lorric]

I think I see what you are saying you're going to do, correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying you won't voice such opinions, but it won't stop you thinking them, and it won't stop you giving benefit of the doubt? That's fine. The kind of comments you gave Nakura would hurt if he is being truthful you see. But if you keep the thoughts to yourself, then he won't get hurt, and you can still think as you please.

Close, i said i won't stop voicing such opinions and that this will even never change, but with benefit of the doubt i know i can make them less painful. Now, if we kept everything to ourselves. There wouldn't be a forum here.

I guess that will have to do. I have noticed you before, and thought you seem nice, so I think you'll probably do okay with that.

[S-99]

This only has to do for you. Because i don't give two ****s about your approval. Noticing you can't see obvious stuff such as me saying

Me and you did come to an understanding that I didn't have to say some of the stuff i said. But, i will always still say this stuff. This is never going to change.

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I think I see what you are saying you're going to do, correct me if I'm wrong. You're saying you won't voice such opinions, but it won't stop you thinking them, and it won't stop you giving benefit of the doubt? That's fine. The kind of comments you gave Nakura would hurt if he is being truthful you see. But if you keep the thoughts to yourself, then he won't get hurt, and you can still think as you please.

Close, i said i won't stop voicing such opinions and that this will even never change

I said quite clearly i would never stop saying this stuff.
And you understood the opposite (probably out of convenience). Probably a trap, hoping to trip me up (you get to voice your opinions and i don't get to?). I don't care. I usually tell people like you that think they have some kind of moral fiber superiority compared to me to go insert dildos into their anus. The same kind of people who take reasonable responses and take it way out of order through their supposed moral fiber supremacy (you're suggesting human beings don't get to go over any evidence which is false, you are suggesting the such human beings should be crucified). I can't trust you to take in data logically, or trust that what you heard is what you actually heard.

And you tell me that what i have said will "just have to do". You were wrong to tell me i was wrong. That says enough for you. You took my kindness and stuffed it in my face. You're no different than the people who screwed me over. I doubt your moral fiber superiority will be lasting into other topics for the sake of your own legitimacy. At least these forums know me for being what and who i am when i am stupid or smart. And you tell me that what i have said will "just have to do". I know you're a liar in real life.

I also like how you didn't take any of my sob story as to why i critically was analyzing nakura. You think i posted that story for no reason. I even said why i posted it. Shall i communicate to you in grunts? I have to assume this if you can't understand my words. I wrote them simply enough.

I was overly critical of nakura because of my own experiences with being fleeced and taken for a fool. I'm a really nice guy. If you're my friend that i trust. I'll so on and so forth.

[The E]

Aaaaand let's bring this latest episode of "Lorric - Moral Guardian" to a close. This can only go bad places.

Lorric: It is not your duty to educate people on what you think is morally correct behaviour. You are skirting very close to the edge of being the bully you accuse others of, and being condescending in your pursuit of what you think is right isn't doing you any favours.

You are not a moderator of this board. You do not get to decide which posts are appropriate and which aren't. We've told you in the past to report posts that you disagree with instead of trying to moderate them yourself.