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Offline Setekh

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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
It's worth mentioning that the newest graphics cards by nvidia and ATI or whatever the company name is are optimised for 256*256 texture maps so why not use multiple maps instead?

That's interesting. If you don't mind, could I ask - how difficult is it to have multiple image maps for the one ship? I know Max's Veritech had like 20 maps alone...  
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Offline Nico

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multi maps? as easy as a single map. You know some vlition fighters are multi map, like the Ursa.
400*400? FS2 won't read it, aldo. what you can use: 64*64, 128*128, 256*256, 512*512 (all my latest models have 512*512 maps), and 1024*1024 (but fs2 will automaticaly size them down to 512*512). you can also have a 512*256 or any combination alike, if you want.

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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by venom2506:
multi maps? as easy as a single map. You know some vlition fighters are multi map, like the Ursa.
400*400? FS2 won't read it, aldo. what you can use: 64*64, 128*128, 256*256, 512*512 (all my latest models have 512*512 maps), and 1024*1024 (but fs2 will automaticaly size them down to 512*512). you can also have a 512*256 or any combination alike, if you want.



made a 512*256 map for LOD0(downsized from 1024x512), halfed for LOD1, looks fine (yet to test ingame).  I've updated the pics on the webpage, so the image 3-4 posts above is now of the new final) texture map.  Note that the renders' of the max size version - that's the one I'm keeping for rendering  

 

Offline Raven2001

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The new version is simply beautiful!!

See if you can convert it fast, so that I can test it along with some new weapons I've been doing!!

NICE!!
Yeah, I know you were waiting for a very nice sig, in which I was quoting some very famous scientist or philosopher... guess what?!? I wont indulge you...

Why, you ask? What, do I look like a Shivan to you?!?


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Offline Martinus

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Multimaps are no problem, if you notice though the map sizes are powers of 8. Valid maps will be a power of 8 (16*16, 16*32 etc.) if they aren't the proper size then they are adjusted by the engine. Multiple maps are actually a great deal easier to use than a single map. Single map texturing is really giving me a headache but it's good practise. The Morrigan fighter (previously Excalibur) is almost done (LOD0 anyway) and it uses a single 256*256 map, I'm experimenting with the Mars though, if it looks right I'm going to be using 3 512*512 maps, here's hoping it works well ingame.

  

Offline morris13

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Thats a really sweet job man. I stand in awe of your 133t 5ki11z. =)
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Maeglamor:
I'm going to be using 3 512*512 maps, here's hoping it works well ingame.

Don't worry, it does. For exemple, my GTB Jotun uses five 512*512 maps

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Offline Martinus

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No I don't mean I hope it'll work, I mean I hope it'll look good. I know it'll work  

BTW 5 maps!! That's gotta be a little on the overkill side for a bomber?!? I'm using 3 on a destroyer and it should easily be enough.

 

Offline Nico

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I've hearded that the starufury from the B5P used something around 20 maps...
and I've done some models for the robotech campaign using 12 maps. my comp handled that pretty well, with the maximum number of ships allowed by fred (I made a battle of endor mission to test all the robotech models at once   )
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Offline Jabu

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Originally posted by venom2506:
I've hearded that the starufury from the B5P used something around 20 maps...

That was the old Starfury. The new, greatly improved version uses around 2. I can't remember exactly.

 

Offline Martinus

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Map size is the key factor, you could use 20 small maps and still use less memory than one large one.

 

Offline aldo_14

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First in-game screenies;

 
 
I've switched back to the big 512*1024 maps to try and avoid the anti-aliasing.

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Offline Raven2001

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Action! I want to see them in action!!!
Yeah, I know you were waiting for a very nice sig, in which I was quoting some very famous scientist or philosopher... guess what?!? I wont indulge you...

Why, you ask? What, do I look like a Shivan to you?!?


Raven is a god.

 

Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by Raven2001:
Action! I want to see them in action!!!

And you shall...
       
       

(Using the Prometheus X cannon by Raven     )

       

slightly dodgy re-arm point, but nevermind    

       

I just need to finalise the engine glows, and finish the shield / tech ani.

[This message has been edited by aldo_14 (edited 07-04-2001).]

 

Offline Snipes

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That reminds me, I have to fool with the Jotun a wee bit more...
     
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Offline aldo_14

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FINISHED!!!!!

Head to http://uk.geocities.com/gunnery_control/downloads.html
to download.

I'm hoping to create the full tech ani at a later stage.

Please post / e-mail me any oppinions you have on it  

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(c)2001 Travis

 

Offline DragonClaw

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  Thats some good work ya got there!

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Offline Setekh

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Oh my dear... that new texture job is amazing.  
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Offline aldo_14

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Update

Forgot to add glowpoints to the model (damn checkboxes   ); updated zip has now been uploaded to my site.