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Offline an0n

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*slo-mo dives*
FORTRAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*gets up*
*slo-mo dives again*
COBOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by an0n
*slo-mo dives*
FORTRAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*gets up*
*slo-mo dives again*
COBOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LISP is cooler for recursion than your FORTRAN! :ha: :p
Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers in the preceding generation . . .Learn from science that you must doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman

  

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Binary tape readers and punch-cards 0wn j00.
"I.....don't.....CARE!!!!!" ---- an0n
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Binary!!!

1001101011011010
0010010110111000
1010101001001101
1001001100110101
1010101010110010!

Assembler 4eva. Or something.

 

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LISP, if for no other reason than Freespace SEXPs are based on it.  However, Lambda Calculus is for Computer Science academic weenies (the angels told me that too).[/list]
COBOL and FORTRAN were intentionally left off the list.  I have little experience with COBOL.  Sadly, I have had far too much experience with FORTRAN *rinses mouth*
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And what about binary tape and punch-cards?!?!
"I.....don't.....CARE!!!!!" ---- an0n
"an0n's right. He's crazy, an asshole, not to be trusted, rarely to be taken seriously, and never to be allowed near your mother. But, he's got a knack for being right. In the worst possible way he can find." ---- Yuppygoat
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Originally posted by an0n
And what about binary tape and punch-cards?!?!
Been there, done that.  I am so goddam old, it sickens me.  Trust me, CD-ROMs and broadband are better.

BTW those are media, not languages ;) You could punch your Java source onto a deck if you were into really weird ****, I guess.
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I always thought FORTRAN was a pretty good language (for number crunching jobs) althought I understand it can be needlessly hard at times. There never seems to be much documentation on it. ORA has a section on most languages but not FORTRAN.

 

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PHP Perl for people who only care about building kewl websites

Tsk, tsk, tsk...PHP is for people who want the functionality of Perl without the "You have an error somewhere. Good luck finding it" error messages :p
But, yes, it's only for websites. :(
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Offline Martinus

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Assembler is a good language but since I've never looked at the instruction set for x86's I can't tell you much about it on that platform.

I did code some stuff on z80's and PICs. :nod:

 

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Originally posted by Maeglamor
Assembler is a good language but since I've never looked at the instruction set for x86's I can't tell you much about it on that platform.

I did code some stuff on z80's and PICs. :nod:
The Z-80!  w00t!  The first processor I learned ASM on!  The only bummer was Zilog made their mnemonics incompatible with the Intel 8080 family.

I remember when we started using the Z-80A - twice the speed (4MHz) of the original (2MHz).  All of a sudden, our code started to fly!
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i'm not sure penguin, but isn't javascript for websites but Java for something else...

 

Offline ZylonBane

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An oldie but a goodie...

A GUIDE TO PROGRAMMING LANGUAGES

C
You shoot yourself in the foot.

C++
You accidentally create a dozen instances of yourself and shoot them all in the foot. Providing emergency medical care is impossible since you can't tell which are bitwise copies and which are just pointing at others and saying, "that's me, over there."

ASSEMBLY
You crash the OS and overwrite the root disk. The system administrator arrives and shoots you in the foot. After a moment of contemplation, the administrator shoots himself in the foot and then hops around the room rabidly shooting at everyone in sight.

APL
You heard a gunshot, and there's a hole in your foot, but you don't remember enough linear algebra to understand what the hell happened.

ADA
If you are dumb enough to actually use this language, the United States Department of Defense will kidnap you, stand you up in front of a firing squad, and tell the soldiers, "Shoot at his feet."

MODULA-2
After realizing that you can't actually accomplish anything in this language, you shoot yourself in the head.

PASCAL
Same as Modula-2, except the bullets are the wrong type and won't pass through the barrel.  The gun explodes.

SH, CSH
You can't remember the syntax for anything, so you spend five hours reading man pages before giving up. You then shoot the computer and switch to C.

SMALLTALK
You spend so much time playing with the graphics and windowing system that your boss shoots you in the foot, takes away your workstation, and makes you develop in COBOL on a character terminal.

HYPERCARD
Put the first bullet of gun into foot left of leg of you. Answer the result.

FORTRAN
You shoot yourself in each toe, iteratively, until you run out of toes, then read in the next foot and repeat. If you run out of bullets, you continue anyway because you have no exception processing ability.

ALGOL
You shoot yourself in the foot with a musket. The musket is esthetically fascinating, and the wound baffles the adolescent medic in the emergency room.

MOTIF
You spend days writing a UIL description of your foot, the bullet, its trajectory, and the intricate scrollwork on the ivory handles of the gun. When you finally get around to pulling the trigger, the gun jams.

COBOL
USEing a COLT45 HANDGUN, AIM gun at LEG.FOOT, THEN place ARM.HAND.FINGER on HANDGUN.TRIGGER, and SQUEEZE. THEN return HANDGUN to HOLSTER. Check whether shoelaces need to be retied.

BASIC
Shoot self in foot with a water pistol. On big systems, continue until entire lower body is waterlogged.

VISUAL BASIC
You shoot yourself in the foot, but have so much fun doing it that you don't care.

PL/I
You consume all available system resources, including all the offline bullets. The Data Processing and Payroll Department doubles its size, triples its budget, acquires four new mainframes, and drops the original one on your foot.

SNOBOL
You grab your foot with your hand, then rewrite your hand to be a bullet. The act of shooting the original foot then changes your hand/bullet into yet another foot (a left foot).

LISP
you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun with which you shoot yourself in the appendage which holds the gun...

ORACLE
ORACLE sells you a gun, a box of bullets, a holster, a cardboard mock-up of a wild-west town, and a stetson. You find the trigger, which takes 27 people to pull. ORACLE provides 26 consultants, all with holsters, cardboard mock-ups, and stetsons. The bullet doesn't leave the gun barrel and you hire four more ORACLE consultants to optimise. The bullet bounces off of your sandals. You decide to buy INGRES. Richard Donkin shoots you in the foot.

370 JCL
You send your foot down to MIS and include a 400-page document explaining exactly how you want it to be shot. Three years later, your foot comes back deep-fried.

PARADOX
Not only can you shoot yourself in the foot, your users can, too.

ACCESS
You try to point the gun at your foot, but it shoots holes in all your Borland distribution diskettes instead.

JAVA
You can shoot your foot with a standalone interpreter, but a Java applet won't let you access your foot.
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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So most of you are suggesting C++ but Zylon, in his infinite wisdom, is suggesting not bothering at all, but just going out and shooting myself in the foot, right.

Well then, where can I get a C++ compiler? A mate of mine tried to learn C++ but couldn't find any and so lost interest, I don't want to do the same. Also, as someone else asked, are there any decen C++ books. I found the SAMS Teach Yourself (whatever) in 24Hours/21Days to be very useful, id there one for C++?

 

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Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
So most of you are suggesting C++ but Zylon, in his infinite wisdom, is suggesting not bothering at all, but just going out and shooting myself in the foot, right.

Well then, where can I get a C++ compiler? A mate of mine tried to learn C++ but couldn't find any and so lost interest, I don't want to do the same. Also, as someone else asked, are there any decen C++ books. I found the SAMS Teach Yourself (whatever) in 24Hours/21Days to be very useful, id there one for C++?


Go get yourself a copy of GCC (make sure it's the x86 version). It's free and is widely distributed. DO a search on google for it. :)

 

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Originally posted by Maeglamor
Go get yourself a copy of GCC (make sure it's the x86 version). It's free and is widely distributed. DO a search on google for it. :)
The GCC home page is at http://gnu.org/software/gcc/ Go to the Download / binaries area.  You'll also need Cygwin or MinGW IIRC.

Zylon:
I liked the shoot in foot thing, Saw it years ago.  There was a similar one for operating systems too... :nod:

Stealth:
Java is very much used in the web... the whole Servlet thing, JSP, etc.  Not usually visible to the browser, but it does the CGI-type stuff behind the scenes.  Check out the Tomcat server by Apache -- it's one of the best web engines out there, and it's free http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/  There used to be a lot of hype about Java applets, but you don't hear as much about that anymore...

JavaScript is the stuff that runs in the browser context and allows useful things :rolleyes: like spam windows that pop up when you try to shut down your browser.  I don't consider JavaScript to be a real language, but I'm sure I'll get flamed for that :p
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Originally posted by Petrarch of th VBB
So most of you are suggesting C++ but Zylon, in his infinite wisdom, is suggesting not bothering at all, but just going out and shooting myself in the foot, right.
Sigh...  Look, it's a repost of a humor file that's been floating around since before the Internet even existed.

Between this and the responses in the "Spacecrack" thread, I'm starting to think it's Short Bus day at the HLP. :doubt:
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If you want to try visual basic, there is a downloadable version on microsoft's website somewhere, its called the "control creation edition" or something I think, but you can only run the programs in the VB interface, you can't actually compile them.  I use Visual Basic, I really like it because I enjoy making simple directX games and utility programs and don't have the time to learn c++, which is more complicated and isn't going to make my simple programs run any better :p

 

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"Personally, I think Unix shell programming has perl/python/java/C++ all beat. Just look at the following chain of Unix commands:  
unzip; strip; touch; finger; mount; fsck; more; yes; umount; sleep"

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Aw geez, you and CP. :p