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Could I speak to someone in charge?
I have a report I need to follow up on but I'm having a lot of trouble picking the target out of traffic.

 

Offline The E

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Okay. I think I'm about as in charge as it gets 'round these parts, so what's the issue?
If I'm just aching this can't go on
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I really need lifе to touch me
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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Thanks for your prompt reply. I'm chasing a piece of literature that got misplaced on the way to an expert. It's not family friendly and my boss will be really angry if it gets out. Can you canvass around and let me know if anything odd's turned up?

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Ummm.

Okay.

But first, please prove you are human. What exactly is Blue Planet?
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
And what if he is a Shivan? You won't help him if he is? Or a Vasudan?
--Did it! It's RELEASED! VeniceMirror Thread--

 
Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Hi The_E,

It looks like a video game! I just go where the reports are.

Thanks for your help. I've been asked to let you know that the faster we can shut this down, the fewer authorities we'll need to involve.

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Okay, so I'll need some more information then. How do you come to the belief that your documents, whatever they are, are here? Can you describe these documents in more detail? Can you tell us anything that might help us identify the things you've lost?
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
They're not family friendly... I'm guessing it's porn!

But I am curious... how a piece of literature could get "mis-placed" on the way to an "expert" on the internet. Why not use email? And why would it end up on a forum?

This sounds phishy!
I do not feel... I think!

 
Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
I believe some of the material you're looking for can be found here, and here. I must admit I do not quite understand why you are following up on it now; I understood that the matter had been put to rest by local assets some time ago.
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell.

 
Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
I think I'll need to escalate this situation. The material isn't of interest to anyone here. We're really counting on your help, since we need to focus most of our resources on larger matters, so please try to avoid counterproductive blinds and just let me know if you spot anyone or anything out of the ordinary.

This looks like a tight-knit community! I hope I can make it worth your time to help out  ;)

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
:wtf:

EDIT: So, looks like somebody (not naming any names here) is doing a viral BP thing (and this is probably related).
« Last Edit: March 12, 2015, 10:55:26 pm by AdmiralRalwood »
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Codethulhu GitHub wgah'nagl fhtagn.

schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

When you gaze long into BMPMAN, BMPMAN also gazes into you.

"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Granite Hunter, these groceries wouldn't happen to be casual would they?

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
Oh, this is no bot. This is clearly BP.

A secret blood verb... is a conversation between intel analysts. It starts with the automated translation of a vasudan text. The analyzer theorizes it's a conversation between HOL elements and maybe Khonsu (hol/kho). Then he asks it to be processed in a superior mainframe (red asset) but his request is denied. The vasudan text is strange, talking about three eras. I believe the first one represents the GTA-PVA conflict (of matter, hate of the predator). This one gave birth to the second, the Shivan incurssion (of simulacra (simulations?), hate of cancer). The third one I'm not sure, I'm no native reader and too many cyclic references confuse me...

The one linked by AdmiralRalwood is a Tev inteligence report. Granite Hunter has requested freeing the rogue pilots captured and interrogated in this thread (Arid, Burrock and Candide) for PR reasons. But another operative (Wizard Man) is asking the superior officer (Coldburn) to send those guys to Beta Aquilae for study. He wants to investigate the brain patterns introduced by Ubuntu forming since their knowledge of buntu economics may make them specially affected. By doing so, he searches inference into the Vishnans plans ([Threat two]). The more parsimonious handshaking codes might infer higher comm priority.

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
The more parsimonious handshaking codes might infer higher comm priority.
I think the header/footer coded message traffic may indicate a handover by Federation intelligence assets; you don't need coded handshakes just to transfer an internal memo, after all.

The opening and closing paragraphs of the message itself don't fit the content and seem reminiscent of the sorts of messages encountered during Nagari sequences, leading me to wonder if the message was somehow intercepted through a Nagari-based method somehow.

"Red asset" sounds like a term for a CASSANDRA-equivalent of some sort.



The headers in the two messages are different:
Code: [Select]
RRR 8S8 III R IR AHN NA
CAN I GET A BIG HAND?
000 000 000 001 A A A
WIZARD MAN -> COLDMORN
Let's talk about the RCT group
Code: [Select]
UNU IVV N VO N V NV V
000 000 000 098 T T T
RATCHET MOTION
[...]
UNU IVV N VO N G RG G
000 000 000 099 T T T
CORAL LAAGER
[...]
UNU IVV N VO N V NV D
000 000 001 000 K O A
RATCHET MOTION
Structural differences could simply be due to the fact that one is a sender/recipient directed message while the others appear to be system-internal notes attached to a file (like the difference between an email and forum posts), but makes me wonder what the significance of "CAN I GET A BIG HAND?" is.



Some terms in the 0bin link that we seem to have found meanings for on IRC:
  • RCT = Regressive Customs Tax (the name of Arid/Burrock/Candide's ship)
  • COMSOLINT = Seems like it should be interpreted as "COM SOL INT"; either the group or single individual responsible for all GTVI activities in (or maybe even related to) Sol.
  • SEF = Sol Expeditionary Force
  • CINCSOL = Commander-in-Chief, Sol (Steele)
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Codethulhu GitHub wgah'nagl fhtagn.

schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

When you gaze long into BMPMAN, BMPMAN also gazes into you.

"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
I think the header/footer coded message traffic may indicate a handover by Federation intelligence assets; you don't need coded handshakes just to transfer an internal memo, after all.
Maybe a leak from Tev intelligence to the federation?

The opening and closing paragraphs of the message itself don't fit the content and seem reminiscent of the sorts of messages encountered during Nagari sequences, leading me to wonder if the message was somehow intercepted through a Nagari-based method somehow.

The problem with the Nagari text is that it appears within the Tev message. Are Tevs using Nagari for communications?

but makes me wonder what the significance of "CAN I GET A BIG HAND?" is.
It's the mail subject. His asking someone up high in the hierarchy to step in.

And I'd say SecCon = Security Council

Where did you get this text?

 

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Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
The problem with the Nagari text is that it appears within the Tev message. Are Tevs using Nagari for communications?
That's not the problem, that's what makes me think of it as a possibility in the first place. The idea being that the message got these extra bits as a result of having been obtained via Nagari; if it were outside the message, that would seem more to imply that the Federation agents were transmitting the message via Nagari.

but makes me wonder what the significance of "CAN I GET A BIG HAND?" is.
It's the mail subject. His asking someone up high in the hierarchy to step in.
The subject is clearly "Let's talk about the RCT group", though.

Where did you get this text?
The link was PM'd to IronBeer on IRC.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Codethulhu GitHub wgah'nagl fhtagn.

schrödinbug (noun) - a bug that manifests itself in running software after a programmer notices that the code should never have worked in the first place.

When you gaze long into BMPMAN, BMPMAN also gazes into you.

"I am one of the best FREDders on Earth" -General Battuta

<Aesaar> literary criticism is vladimir putin

<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 
Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
hey. boss here. first, thank you to everyone for helping us track the overspill. it means a LOT to our office to have a clear picture of what's happening. believe it or not (i suspect many of you don't) we're not in the business of lies. now that we can see what's out there, we know how worried to be. please keep linking everything you get!

second. you guys do a lot of great analysis. i have to admit to some surprise in the local branch at your tradecraft here. while it's a shame the first document is right out there, i want to personally thank all of you for keeping the second item off the record in a secure place. this is a patriotic thing to do but more importantly it is smart.

let's talk about what's going on.

the person doing this will claim to have the mother lode. they will offer you treasure. i read a lot of the classics and i don't think i have to tell you what happens when karla sells you treasure. except they are more of a used car salesman here, if i'm honest. you are being lied to and manipulated in the name of someone's cheap thrills, or, worse, their employers' agenda.

I want to reward all of you for your hard work and loyalty. I will reach out in private to those of you who've signaled interest here. We need to obtain information on this person and their facilitators so that we can render them information safe. In exchange I am prepared to offer a menu of declassifications. Would that be of interest?

 
Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
The vasudan text is strange, talking about three eras. I believe the first one represents the GTA-PVA conflict (of matter, hate of the predator). This one gave birth to the second, the Shivan incurssion (of simulacra (simulations?), hate of cancer). The third one I'm not sure, I'm no native reader and too many cyclic references confuse me...

The first calendar is a reference to the primal, animal state of existence; the second to collectivisation and civilisation. Not really sure what the third is meant to be: the statement on hatred, when you parse it out, just states that "there exists something that is hated in the third calendar".
The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who make empty prophecies. The danger already exists that the mathematicians have made a covenant with the devil to darken the spirit and to confine man in the bonds of Hell.

 
Re: Could I speak to someone in charge?
That account(Granite Hunter) seems a bit strange to me honestly. It was created over 2 years ago and hasn't posted a thing till yesterday. You can lurk without an account so my guess is he was busy coordinating whatever all of this malarkey is using PMs. Those "lost" docs only appeared recently, there would be no reason for this account to exist 2 years prior. If anything they're trying to confuse us using "leaked" info but this honestly seems too easy to find.
Also wouldn't be the first time somebody tries to take advantage of false "leaks". Don't forget Saturn.
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