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Re: XCOM 2. The advent administration is here.
Nice and I like the nod towards the Games Com in Cologne :D
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I am hype.

 
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I am hype.

Your not the only one...  :nod: :nod: ;) ;) :D :D

 

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Re: XCOM 2. The advent administration is here.
Have they re-worked the weapon mechanics?
Are shots actually tracked? Can bullets individually hit object in between?
Or are they just effects that will again pass trough stuff and cause me endless irritation?
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Shots are tracked in XCOM: Enemy Unknown.

This becomes very painfully apparent the first time you miss a shot, hit a wall and blow it open, and expose another pod that you are not prepared to deal with on your last action of the turn.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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Are shots actually tracked? Can bullets individually hit object in between?

I'm not entirely sure what you think happens in the game, because you can sure as hell watch the shot hit stuff it wasn't supposed to. If you're complaining about limited animations in the game leading to funny-looking shots, that's because it's a game. Deal with it.
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Re: XCOM 2. The advent administration is here.
If you're complaining about limited animations in the game leading to funny-looking shots, that's because it's a game. Deal with it.

And hopefully will be fixed in 2, I'm sure they've noticed the problem in 1 and taken steps to correct it. I hope. Because it definitely was distracting.

Or are you talking about near misses possibly doing collateral damage to surrounding enemies? Like you could blind-fire in the original and in TFTD and score a kill or two if the aliens were standing in front of one another. Or you could miss a shot and hit the hidden alien standing next to your target.
Because that would be pretty sweet.

 

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Re: XCOM 2. The advent administration is here.
Shots are tracked in XCOM: Enemy Unknown.

This becomes very painfully apparent the first time you miss a shot, hit a wall and blow it open, and expose another pod that you are not prepared to deal with on your last action of the turn.

Didn't appear that way to me. I had shot pass trough 2 cars or other objects to hit me. It appears as the shot only takes into account the target and it's direct cover and nothing more.
Also, multiple shots act like one. Either the entire burst hits, or the entire burst misses. No individual bullet tracking.

I have never seen the shots damage anything in between, I have never seen shots that miss hit anything else. No accident can happen. No diviations.
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Well, the shots don't travel in a straight line, they zigzag along the grid, and, elevation comes in to play, if for example the enemy is on the 2nd floor, his shot can pass over the car, again, along a zigzag path following the 3D (well, 2.5D) game area grid.

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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I have never seen shots that miss hit anything else.

You literally have not played the game. Cars blowing up because they took the hit rather than the person behind them. Walls being blasted open because of plasma fire. These are not uncommon occurrences. A pitched firefight can destroy a section of an urban map very quickly.

Jesus Christ, when I LP'd it I made a note of a shot tracking through a glass door that destroyed the door instead of continuing on in the first post.

EDIT: Game has been delayed three months. I am sadface.
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Re: XCOM 2. The advent administration is here.
I don't think Trashman can quite comprehend the idea that Enemy Unknown was perfectly capable of tracking shot trajectories but the devs made a design decision not to use it for the crucial hit/miss mechanic. To him, simulating the ballistics of each individual bullet is just objectively superior.
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I can get where Trashman is coming from. Bullets phasing through objects and said objects being unphased by the bullets isn't unheard of
But Trashman, it's also important to note *that this isn't 100% of the time*
Maybe here and there will bullets just phase through terrain, but not everytime will objects being struck by bullets outright ignore it

However, it is hilarious when suppressing fire and/or missed shots *still end up hitting someone*
"I just ate a faceful of plasma! But, since it wasn't aimed at me, I'm okay!"
"The suppressing fire is coming my way... and it's hitting me... but that's alright, it's not actually damaging fire! Must be set to 'irrelevant' "

"No"

 

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Don't forget the hands on look at a couple of random missions, and customization.

 

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Awesome, but that delay sucks^^
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