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Offline Fury

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You couldn't be bothered to Google "Windows 10 dark theme"?

I checked that out months ago when I was still using Technical Preview. It only takes effect on Modern UI, not desktop UI. There are the same high-contrast themes that have been there since WinXP at least, but they disable what's left of GPU acceleration (afaik) and switch to Windows 2000 style basic theme.

So nope, not a real solution.

 

Offline jr2

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I have yet to use custom, unofficial themes in any Windows since WinXP. Am I right in assuming that it still requires patching uxtheme.dll and that it often gets replaced by Windows updates, possibly leading to breakage upon reboot? I remember reading that it is advised to revert to official theme prior to doing any Windows updates. Sounds like more trouble than it is worth.

Still, I was strongly hoping MS would have finally included a proper dark theme in Win10.

All that is true, but it's still well worth it to me. The high contrast themes I use look much nicer and are easier on the eyes. I run the updates manually every now and then, setting the default theme along with restore points. Not setting the theme back can render the system unbootable with a few of the large updates.

... Safe Mode should have still gotten you around that, I would have thought.

 

Offline An4ximandros

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Windows 10 as the last version of Windows? CLOUD BASED MS-OS CONFIRMED.

 

Offline Gortef

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Installed W10 onto my main PC and my laptop on this week. Works quite nicely actually (as expected since I had played with the Insider version already for some time).

The only problem I had was that my Creative xTremeMusic stopped working but that was expected since Creative are lazy bums at making drivers.
Habeeb it...

 

Offline jr2

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FYI PSA all Insiders:  Not sure if I mentioned it but updating your Insider Tech Preview build to 10240 RTM gives you 10 Pro, whereas using your free upgrade from 7 / 8.1 will only give you Pro if you had 7 or 8.1 Pro.

So if you were on Tech Preview and used your non-Pro OS to update, and want Pro, grab an ISO of 10166, install, activate, and let that update to 10240 RTM.  Then you can clean install and get Pro.

Although I'm unsure if activating your hardware via the free previous OS Upgrade would negate your Tech Preview Pro Upgrade.  Hopefully not.


The only problem I had was that my Creative xTremeMusic stopped working but that was expected since Creative are lazy bums at making drivers.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=5133841&postcount=3

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I had problems myself with my x-fi xtrememusic and Windows 10. When I upgraded to windows 10 and installed Daniel_K's drivers, everything worked fine. I then did a clean installation of Windows 10 (because I'd been planning to so) and installed firewall and antivirus right away before actually installing sound drivers. Mistake! When I installed the Daniel_K sound drivers, I had no sound and the creative audio control panel said I had no supported hardware. I tried different drivers and messed around with it for about 2 hours uninstalling and reinstalling. I finally said **** it and reinstalled Windows 10 again. This time I unplugged the internet, so windows couldn't update anything, and I installed the daniel_k drivers first thing. Now sound is working just fine!

If I want my sound settings to be saved, I still have to shut down my computer completely but at least my sound works. Also I should say that when I initially upgraded to windows 10 and installed daniel_k's drivers I too had problems, similar to yours, with losing sound and settings not saving.

One thing I would recommend is completely uninstalling all creative software and drivers. Unplug from the internet, turn off 3rd party firewall and antivirus and reinstall the daniel_k package again. If the sound works, set your desired settings in the creative audio control panel and shut down (restart won't work) your computer so that they're saved. If none of this works, do what I did and perform a complete reinstallation of windows 10 with the net unplugged. Install the daniel_k package first thing and see if that resolves your problem. I know it's the last thing you probably want to do, but it worked for me.

PS: I too am frustrated with Creative. They had enough time to create drivers for Windows 10 and once again they are late!

EDIT: Also, if you plan to do a re-installation of windows 10, install your video card drivers before connecting to the internet. Windows 10 downloaded Nvidia drivers for me and installed them without my permission! When I restarted my PC I booted into a black screen and could only get back into windows by uninstalling the "sh!t" drivers through safe mode. I also had to disable the net so Windows wouldn't re-install the same drivers. Microsoft once again creating more problems!!


My drivers just worked, not sure why some are borking out.  :ick:  That sucks.  Wonder if it's MS or the OEMs at fault.  And why MS doesn't pull the updates for those systems affected.
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The only problem I had was that my Creative xTremeMusic stopped working but that was expected since Creative are lazy bums at making drivers.

Well there's just one more deal breaker.  I have the same card and refuse to give it up.
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i'm running an audigy 2 zs on kx drivers just fine on win10, for the record.
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Offline CP5670

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The only problem I had was that my Creative xTremeMusic stopped working but that was expected since Creative are lazy bums at making drivers.

Well there's just one more deal breaker.  I have the same card and refuse to give it up.

I have one of those too. You might just need to reinstall the drivers, which are the same for Vista/7/8 anyway. I would be surprised if they don't work on 10.

In fact, they say here that it's supposed to have official drivers this month.

 

Offline Klaustrophobia

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Even though it's been in their "legacy" category for years?
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Offline Klaustrophobia

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Just in case yall haven't seen it yet...

http://www.kitguru.net/gaming/operating-systems/matthew-wilson/windows-10-can-seek-out-pirated-software/

Piracy aside, I find microsoft giving itself permission to do these things to your computer disturbing.  When is there going to be a legal crackdown on EULA consumer abuse?
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Offline jr2

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FFS:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3h5wwg/windows_10_disabling_pirated_software_not_so_fast/

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A new story has been making the rounds, regarding Section 7.b. of the Microsoft Services Agreement (emphasis mine):

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Sometimes you’ll need software updates to keep using the Services. We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services. Such updates are subject to these Terms unless other terms accompany the updates, in which case, those other terms apply. Microsoft isn’t obligated to make any updates available and we don’t guarantee that we will support the version of the system for which you licensed the software.

The original source appears to be an Alphr article that claims "Redmond can disable any games you’ve pirated or devices you’ve unlawfully hacked" and "Microsoft has practically baked DRM into the core of Windows 10".

What is that? No, put away your sheet of alumin(i)um foil. This is neither new nor a story.

It's not new?

Well, it's right up the top of Microsoft's page:


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Published: June 4, 2015

Effective: August 1, 2015

What are all these agreements and terms and ****?

Microsoft Software License Terms: applies to Windows (10) specifically

Microsoft Privacy Statement: applies to basically all Microsoft things

Microsoft Service Agreement: applies to listed Microsoft services

Does the Microsoft Service Agreement apply to Windows 10?

The Microsoft Service Agreement does not apply to Windows 10.

It is separated under Section 1.b. — Additional terms of the Microsoft Software License Terms that you agree to during Windows 10 setup:


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Some Windows apps provide an access point to, or rely on, online services, and the use of those services is sometimes governed by separate terms and privacy policies, such as the Microsoft Services Agreement at (aka.ms/msa). You can view these terms and policies by looking at the service terms of use or the app’s settings, as applicable. The services may not be available in all regions.

Compare and contrast with the applicable Microsoft Privacy Agreement, mentioned under Section 3 — Privacy; Consent to Use of Data:


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Your privacy is important to us. Some of the software features send or receive information when using those features. Many of these features can be switched off in the user interface, or you can choose not to use them. By accepting this agreement and using the software you agree that Microsoft may collect, use, and disclose the information as described in the Microsoft Privacy Statement (aka.ms/privacy), and as may be described in the user interface associated with the software features.

The Microsoft Service Agreement lists the services it applies to under the last section, Covered Services. You will not see Windows (10) there.


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These terms ("Terms") cover the use of Microsoft’s consumer products, websites and services listed here (the "Services"). […] You accept these Terms by creating a Microsoft account or Skype account, by using the Services, or by continuing to use the Services after being notified of a change to these Terms.

What does Section 7.b. mean, then?

Here's what I do see under Covered Services:

  • Xbox and Windows Games published by Microsoft
  • Xbox Live

I think it's pretty clear that Section 7.b. calls out "counterfeit games" and "unauthorized hardware peripheral devices" because it was written in regards to Microsoft's gaming platform and associated IP on Xbox and Windows.

Interestingly enough, the current list doesn't even call out the Windows Store, even though it is discussed in the store-specific Section 14.b.

 

Offline Gortef

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Well Creative just released drivers for W10. Too late though, the integrated Realtek I use now is actually pretty good too. Surprisingly so if I'm completely honest.
Habeeb it...

 

Offline Cyborg17

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So.  Did anyone else lose all their desktop shortcuts after the upgrade?

 

Offline Luis Dias

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Weird problem that. IDK, my pc was almost brand new and I hadn't any.

 
My brother's laptop upgraded just yesterday, and the wallpaper and icons are all still where they were before.

 

Offline Flaser

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I've been trying to upgrade my desktop for several days now...

...darn tire of "something happening".
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Offline Jeff Vader

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I did a clean Win7 install on my desktop, then waited for a while for the upgrade notification. It never appeared so I just used the upgrade tool from Microsoft. All went well. Not sure if I like 10 better than 7 but it is better than 8.
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Offline jr2

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I've been trying to upgrade my desktop for several days now...

...darn tire of "something happening".

Hmm.  Can you check your system logs and find something more specific there?   

Start -> Run -> eventvwr

 

Offline AtomicClucker

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Used a win10 preview version with spectacular failure due to MSI drivers being repacked 8.1 junk.

However, due to the invasive and Orwellian contract for a terminal, not an OS. I'm sticking with 7. And: https://github.com/WindowsLies/BlockWindows/

Cut out that nasty spying ****. Plus, I'm still extremely pissed at trying to shove Win10 snooping capabilities into 7/8, as I just had fun rooting out said updates in several systems, blocking connections in my firewall and shutting down outbound connections I didn't approve of. One thing to go "OMGH! ONE WORLD NSA SPYINGS!" another to cynically realize that Win10 is a subtle jab saying that the user is a MS Data Asset.
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I would like to do my free upgrade but button did not appear. And ive tried troubleshooting. Kinda pissed at Microsoft.
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