[Scotty]

You deliberately implied that he should have racially profiled them.  Until and unless those people in particular are linked with this I will not soften my language toward what is blatantly racism.

[SpardaSon21]

I must continue to demand an apology, for I am not being racist by saying suspicious activity by suspicious men is suspicious activity by suspicious men, and that deliberately not reporting that because of a fear of racial profiling is showing poor judgment.

[Scotty]

I must continue to demand an apology, for I am not being racist by saying suspicious activity by suspicious men is suspicious activity by suspicious men, and that deliberately not reporting that because of a fear of racial profiling is showing poor judgment.

Bet he wishes he did do some racial profiling at this point.

You can keep demanding; it's not happening.

[SpardaSon21]

I must continue to demand an apology, for I am not being racist by saying suspicious activity by suspicious men is suspicious activity by suspicious men, and that deliberately not reporting that because of a fear of racial profiling is showing poor judgment.

Bet he wishes he did do some racial profiling at this point.

You can keep demanding; it's not happening.

You should go take a look at your sarcasm detector; its probably broken.

[Phantom Hoover]

hey sparda i think he's victimising you for being so high-functioning autistic that you don't realise how ****ing awful the **** you're saying sounds

maybe you should sue him for discrimination or something

[Aesaar]

SpardaSon21: So are you gonna vote for Donald Trump or not?

This is important!

[karajorma]

Bet he wishes he did do some racial profiling at this point.

Well he might not be a racist scumbag, so maybe not.

[NGTM-1R]

Also, for all the commentary about a racial component, does this really sound like a terrorist target? Paris hit stadiums, concerts, the streets in general; public gathering places.

This was a school, technically, but it was a school for people with developmental or functional disabilities. And they hit a staff holiday party, not a class. The target selection says "personal motive". Maybe the justification was ideological, but the actual crime? That's a hard sell.

EDIT: Syed may have actually worked there. According to some sources, his coworkers identified him to first responders. That makes a purely opportunistic, terrorist agenda very unlikely.

[SpardaSon21]

Because apparently I didn't communicate my statement clearly, let me rephrase it.  When there's suspicious activity happening in your area, I think worrying about being racist should be secondary to worrying about the suspicious activity.

[Goober5000]

hey sparda i think he's victimising you for being so high-functioning autistic that you don't realise how ****ing awful the **** you're saying sounds

maybe you should sue him for discrimination or something

Kindly phrase your criticism without using personal attacks.

[SpardaSon21]

To answer your question Phantom Hoover, yes, I actually was unaware of how awfully I was communicating my point.  I hope my clarification above clears it up.

[karajorma]

Because apparently I didn't communicate my statement clearly, let me rephrase it.  When there's suspicious activity happening in your area, I think worrying about being racist should be secondary to worrying about the suspicious activity.

Which would be a fine argument if they were doing anything suspicious. But nowhere in article you posted did it say they were doing anything suspicious other than being Middle-Eastern in appearance.

[WeatherOp]

Also, for all the commentary about a racial component, does this really sound like a terrorist target? Paris hit stadiums, concerts, the streets in general; public gathering places.

This was a school, technically, but it was a school for people with developmental or functional disabilities. And they hit a staff holiday party, not a class. The target selection says "personal motive". Maybe the justification was ideological, but the actual crime? That's a hard sell.

EDIT: Syed may have actually worked there. According to some sources, his coworkers identified him to first responders. That makes a purely opportunistic, terrorist agenda very unlikely.

My vote right now is the idea that this wasn't the target and they just changed plans  shoot it up. Maybe the arguement set it off and he decided to get them first. We know they dropped the baby off, so a plan was in action. The question is did he decide this attack on a whim before going the carry out the main show and was intercepted before? As morbid as it sounds his decision to start there may have saved many more lives elsewhere at a theater or the like.

Of course, it could be that he was a behind the curtain type guy who made bombs and transfered ammo who just decided to do something himself after the argument. 

[WeatherOp]

Going deeper now.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting/index.html

[MP-Ryan]

California already has some of the strictest firearms laws in the country such as bans on magazines above ten rounds, various assault weapon bans, as well as all buyers and sellers need to perform background checks, but if those didn't stop this shooting, what the hell will?

EDIT: I forgot to mention the mandatory 10-day waiting period, too.

All of which are a complete and utter joke compared to the reasonable firearms controls in literally every other advanced democratic nation on this planet.

Hint: Your northern neighbour has a similar culture, large number of firearms owned, and a not-insignificant gun culture as well, and yet has nowhere near the per-capita number of gun deaths (any cause) or mass shootings as your country does.  It also happens to have coherent national firearms regulation of both weapons and owners.

The United States is not going to be able to deal with its high gun death, murder, and mass shootings problem until it deals with the ease of access for anyone to firearms in addition to all the other factors.

[NGTM-1R]

@WeatherOp: Or more shallow. His last direct contact with anyone who's considered a radical was months ago and apparently uninteresting, as far as they know.

Livin' the American Dream, as defined by teenage Republicans: Guns, God, and Blowing Things Up.

[Klaustrophobia]

That statement is every bit as valid as "muslims are terrorists."

Seriously, ENOUGH with the "republicans are crazy racist gun fanatics" lines. 

[Phantom Hoover]

Livin' the American Dream, as defined by teenage Republicans: Guns, God, and Blowing Things Up.

this is a horrible ad hominem, spardason isn't a teenager

[WeatherOp]

@WeatherOp: Or more shallow. His last direct contact with anyone who's considered a radical was months ago and apparently uninteresting, as far as they know.

Livin' the American Dream, as defined by teenage Republicans: Guns, God, and Blowing Things Up.

I guess that makes the Democratic Teenage dream: video games, virtual relationships and never have to break a sweat?

[SpardaSon21]

Because apparently I didn't communicate my statement clearly, let me rephrase it.  When there's suspicious activity happening in your area, I think worrying about being racist should be secondary to worrying about the suspicious activity.

Which would be a fine argument if they were doing anything suspicious. But nowhere in article you posted did it say they were doing anything suspicious other than being Middle-Eastern in appearance.

From the article, from the man who said he didn't want to racially profile:

“We sat around lunch thinking, ‘What were they doing around the neighborhood?'” he said.  “We’d see them leave where they’re raiding the apartment.”