[Riven]

I need any info on FS systems i can get. They need to be as reliable as possible, prefrably canon but can be back by other sources.
Here's what i need:

System Name (just so i know where yor on about)
Owner (GTVA/Vasudan/any previous and its status ie. outpost, capital...)
Number of planets (just the maximum number you know of)
Names of Inhabited Planets
Number of suns and there colours
any historical events that happened there

I've got Sol,vasuda,delta serpentis and altair

Thanks in advance

[Pegasus V]

For one, you should try doing a search on the forums first.
You can always check out my work-in-progress Nodemap. Each system (on the lower half) is clickable and has canon info plus real info.

By the way, they should remove the green sun in FRED2, because no star can have a green hue.

[StratComm]

I can think of two reasons to use a green star:

Capella turns green just before going supernova in the endgame cutscene

A star seen through a greenish nebula

but other than that, yes, it is a bit off realistically speaking (hey, the whole game is)

[Su-tehp]

I remember reading about legends of several chinese hells that had a green sun. I mean, hey, if you've got 10,000 hells, a few of then are bound to be lit by a green sun, right?

Where do you think the term "hellish green" came from?

With this in mind, a green sun in Shivan space is certainly not inappropriate...

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Su-tehp
With this in mind, a green sun in Shivan space is certainly not inappropriate...

But I'm talking in regards to physics. It's impossible for the actual star to have a green hue. The colours of a star identify its temperature for its size/type. Fiction has plenty of green stars, but in real life, it's impossible.

[TheVirtu]

Originally posted by Pegasus V


But I'm talking in regards to physics. It's impossible for the actual star to have a green hue. The colours of a star identify its temperature for its size/type. Fiction has plenty of green stars, but in real life, it's impossible.

I could have sworn the Capella Star was glowing green because of the subspace distortion the Sathanas Armada created as a self-subspace node device.

[CP5670]

I think it is possible to have a slightly greenish star; these usually have temperatures between those of the yellow and blue ones. Here is one of those HR diagrams; the greens can be seen there:

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by TheVirtu


I could have sworn the Capella Star was glowing green because of the subspace distortion the Sathanas Armada created as a self-subspace node device.

Hense fiction.....

Originally posted by CP5670
I think it is possible to have a slightly greenish star; these usually have temperatures between those of the yellow and blue ones. Here is one of those HR diagrams; the greens can be seen there:

That diagram is incorrect... The stars that are green on that diagram would have a slight yellow tinge at one end, then white, then a slight blue hue at the end.

[Riven]

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For one, you should try doing a search on the forums first.

I did do, it turned up a few useful threads for various things but not a lot of canon stuff just speculation.

You can always check out my work-in-progress Nodemap. Each system (on the lower half) is clickable and has canon info plus real info.

I didn't want to nick yor info, anyway most of what you have so far is only from the stars of freespace thread which i also thought of using. And not wanting to critisize but wanting to help your map be more accurate:

GTVA Capital is acctualy Delta Serpentis not Beta Aquilea (FSURP)

The Vasudan Home World is Vasuda Prime not Vasuda

Altair Definatly has 1 inhabited planet; Altar 5 also leading to the possible assumption of a minimum of 5 planets in the system
But if u do want to colabirate and share info then thats fine by me

I'm not sure about you saying there's a node between Ross 128 and Vega!!. Probably a typo


BTW here's my work in progress: only done so far are Sol, Vasuda, Altair and Delta Serpentis. It's best viewed in F11 mode

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Riven
I didn't want to nick yor info, anyway most of what you have so far is only from the stars of freespace thread which i also thought of using. And your info other than stars is not hugely indepth eg. Altair 5 is definatly in habitable but you only have Altair 4 as a possible.

But if u do want to colabirate and share info then thats fine by me

You're welcome to take that info. That's what it's there for.

So far I know the following systems are Vasudan:
Vasuda
Aldebaran
Altair
Deneb (could be, because weren't we evacuating Vasudans from Cygnus Prime in Deneb in the first mission of FS2?)
Alpha Centauri (I'm pretty sure. We were escorting a lot of Vasudan ships in one of the FS1 missions in Alpha Centauri after the annihilation of Vasuda Prime.)

Terran Systems:
Sol
Delta Serpentis
Ross 128
Beta Aquilae (not sure about this one)
Laramis (discovered shortly before the Great War)
Luyten 726-8, Wolf 359, Barnard's Star, Alphard, Dubhe are connected only by Laramis, so I'm fairly sure they'd be Terran.
Capella was Terran before its collapse.
Sirius, Polaris, Regulus, Epsilon Pegasi would most likely be Terran also because the NTF uprising was in these systems.

The number of stars and their colours in each system is listed on my nodemap page. This is the real data, which shouldn't be any different in FS.

I'm currently compiling a list of planets, inhabited planets at the moment. When it's done, I release it here.

Hope this helps (even though you weren't nice to me the other day).

[CP5670]

That diagram is incorrect... The stars that are green on that diagram would have a slight yellow tinge at one end, then white, then a slight blue hue at the end.

Okay, then see this from the NASA website:

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970408e.html

They are not very common but they certainly exist.

Regarding the systems, your stuff looks pretty accurate; the one thing I would like to mention is that Beta Aquilae, Deneb and Vega are likely systems that have large populations of both species and thus can be considered as both Terran and Vasudan. (these systems, along with DS and Vasuda, are the central hub of the GTVA, and are also placed somewhat between the two homeworlds)

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Riven
GTVA Capital is acctualy Delta Serpentis not Beta Aquilea (FSURP). The Vasudan Home World is Vasuda Prime not Vasuda

Oops. Meant to update a week ago, but forgot.

Originally posted by Riven
I'm not sure about you saying there's a node between Ross 128 and Vega!!. Probably a typo

Sh*t! Whoops. You're correct - a typo.

Originally posted by Riven
Here's my work in progress:
only done so far are Sol, Vasuda, Altair and Delta Serpentis. It's best viewed in F11 mode

F11 - What about Macs...
I like your design, but it is a bit annoying how the info only pops up when your mouse is hovering over it, rather than staying there (unless it has something to do with this stupid Mac).

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognise Pluto-Charon as a planet!! "Pluto is not a 'planet', but a huge, close-orbiting, low-eccentricity Kuiper Belt object._ With a big moon._ Of course, some die-hards out there still insist that it really is a planet, more for sentimental reasons than anything else._ They're welcome to live in their little fantasy world."
Pluto has a very elongated, inclined orbit. To me it's either a large asteroid or a minor planet. It's the most 'out-of-place' planet in the Sol system. It doesn't make sense that it should be a planet. It was just because some astronomer was trying to solve the Planet X problem and just made an excuse that Pluto had to be it. Little did he know that Planet X (missing mass) was the combination of Pluto-Charon and the Kuiper Belt.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by CP5670


Okay, then see this from the NASA website:

http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970408e.html

They are not very common but they certainly exist.

Regarding the systems, your stuff looks pretty accurate; the one thing I would like to mention is that Beta Aquilae, Deneb and Vega are likely systems that have large populations of both species and thus can be considered as both Terran and Vasudan. (these systems, along with DS and Vasuda, are the central hub of the GTVA, and are also placed somewhat between the two homeworlds)

Well I'll be darned! But Jonathan Keohane didn't really answer that guy's question did he?... I might investigate this issue further

I think you're right about Beta Aquilae, Deneb, Vega.

[Riven]

Thanks, thats great info.

Sorry about the other day, i think i was taking out my frustraitions from life on you cos yours was the thread i was reading at the time.

F11 - What about Macs...

Yep i know F11 won't work on macs or netscape, one of the things on my to do list is to make a full screen button as i think this works on both (yes it is possible to make a browser fullscreen!)

I like your design, but it is a bit annoying how the info only pops up when your mouse is hovering over it, rather than staying there (unless it has something to do with this stupid Mac).

It's not to do with the Mac I did use the on mouse over event but I can change that if you don't like it.

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognise Pluto-Charon as a planet!!

Your probably right here but I just went on what i was taught at school. I'll leave it for the moment because it is most commonly considered a planet and leaving it in should avoid confusion.

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Riven
Thanks, thats great info. Sorry about the other day, i think i was taking out my frustraitions from life on you cos yours was the thread i was reading at the time.

No worries

Originally posted by Riven
It's not to do with the Mac I did use the on mouse over event but I can change that if you don't like it.

It's pretty clever what you've done. But for functionality, it can be frustrating for the user. Perhaps, at least, you could get the info to stay there until you hover over another system. But that might be just as frustrating... But good work, none the less.

Originally posted by Riven
Your probably right here but I just went on what i was taught at school. I'll leave it for the moment because it is most commonly considered a planet and leaving it in should avoid confusion.

They're just brainwashing you. Yes, officially Pluto is a planet. But these idiots need to come back to reality and stop wasting money on stupid Pluto Express probe missions. Bah. We need our Terrestrial Planet Finder telescope!!

[Riven]

Perhaps, at least, you could get the info to stay there until you hover over another system.

Done, i think that works quite well. Check it out

Keep coming up with the suggestions. Im using Dreamweaver so alterations only take seconds.

[CP5670]

Well I'll be darned! But Jonathan Keohane didn't really answer that guy's question did he?... I might investigate this issue further

I think he probably did, since there are different people's names for different questions there. You know him or something?

They're just brainwashing you. Yes, officially Pluto is a planet. But these idiots need to come back to reality and stop wasting money on stupid Pluto Express probe missions. Bah. We need our Terrestrial Planet Finder telescope!!

The one thing I really wanted to see for a while was an x-ray telescope, but they launched the Chandra satellite in 1999, so that is good. The one other thing that would be really nice is a second mission to the outer planets, maybe a Voyager 3 or something, since there is a lot of information missing on things like the surface composition of Titan or what it is in Neptune that allows it to radiate more energy than it recieves. There is probably little of importance at Pluto, but the Kuiper belt might have been worth investigating if it was not so far away.

[Tiara]

From the map when you cick on Sol :

Number of Planets: 8 (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune)

Pluto....... 9 Planets......... Please......

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by Tiara
From the map when you cick on Sol :

Number of Planets: 8 (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune)

Pluto....... 9 Planets......... Please......

No! No! No!!! No Pluto!!

[Pegasus V]

Originally posted by CP5670
...maybe a Voyager 3 or something, since there is a lot of information missing on things like the surface composition of Titan. There is probably little of importance at Pluto, but the Kuiper belt might have been worth investigating if it was not so far away.

The Cassini mission to Saturn (arrives in 2007) will deploy the Europeon Huyten (sp?) probe to Titan. It is designed to land on the surface (be it solid or liquid), so your wish is half a reality. The Pluto Express is actually now named Pluto-Kuiper Express, so another of your wishes is a reality again. But I don't know if they're still going ahead with the Express program now...

Originally posted by Riven
Keep coming up with the suggestions. Im using Dreamweaver so alterations only take seconds.

Good job (Ross 128 doesn't work). I'm thinking it might be better if it's just clickable... But it's up to you. It would look cool if there was a target box drawn around the system on the map to show which system is selected. It would look pretty cool I think. I don't have any other suggestions. Good job. Well... Get rid of Pluto!