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Offline Rhymes

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
The A-10 is seriously nerfed in this game by the big maps, time bonus, weakened brrt and somehow, the A-10 became surprisingly fragile too.

As I understand it, those are some of the problems the A-10 faces in real life, and is part of the reason the USAF keeps trying to get rid of it: it's slow, but not slow enough to linger effectively; BRRT is a great morale booster but useless against anything tougher than a truck (modern tank armor is just too thick for BRRRT to be that effective); and modern air-to-air and surface-to-air weaponry is either very accurate, very powerful, or both, so the armor can't protect it as well.

Caveat: not military. Take with requisite grains of salt.
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
(modern tank armor is just too thick for BRRRT to be that effective)
Bet they get one hell of a headache though.

 

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
It absolutely can **** up modern tanks.

For the record the GAU-8 the plane is built around is also what the gatekeeper ship defence system is built around.    (Caveat- ex military)


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Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Ooh ooh ooh is this a chance to post the

A-10 Pilot's Coloring Book???

I think it is.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
If that's the one in thinking of, my favourite page is the underneath.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
If y'all want a laugh, sortie in multiplayer with the A-10. As long as you keep your speed up and do quick bursts of high-g you basically can't be touched while you send double-homing missiles everywhere. Other fun planes to fly are the F-4E, MiG-21 and F-14. Everyone seems to underestimate them as they flock to the shiny jets.

Sleep, the Ace Combat pages have released a teaser for the newest DLC. A flyable ADF-11 with PLSL instead of guns and a TLS for the special weapon. Multiplayer is going to become cancer. :shaking:

Also, tips: Faceless Soldier on Ace practically requires the Rafale with upgraded blast radius cruise missiles. It's damn near impossible otherwise. Same for Fleet Destruction if you're going for the no damage run. (It's also possible to take out the platform cores before Wiseman does. I love finding alternate dialogue in this game)
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Another special weapon for the Raven are the little laser uav's they launch in the final level, however they seem to be armed with pulse lasers instead of the TLS they had.




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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Still no price cut for PC more than a year after release, although the console versions are cheaper now.  This is now available on Xbox Game Pass, so I can at least play via streaming from my son's Xbox One to my PC.  I'd still buy it for PC though if the price would drop.
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
It's one of the best games of last year, especially for an arcade/action sim fan. If you ask me its worth the hit.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
The VR campaign is pretty fun for something just tacked on as well 👍👍
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Offline Det. Bullock

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
The VR campaign is pretty fun for something just tacked on as well 👍👍
It's not on PC because Bamco decided to go full exclusives also with that not just with the HOTAS support.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
I bought it on ps4 so am covered.  They're cheap e ough nowadays.  Can probably get one with VR for under 300 quid.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
The VR campaign is pretty fun for something just tacked on as well 👍👍
Not to mention they brought "HIM" back for another war...

 

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
I plan to get it if it ever drops to $20.  I may even consider it at 30.   Just watching for sales and price drops!  meanwhile I have been playing AC6 (streaming from the Xbox One).
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
It's exactly what you expect, the multilayer is horrendously brutal though.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President of the Scooby Doo Model Appreciation Society
The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
I picked it up from Humble Bundle for 66% off, and I am loving it so far.  And, I just figured out how to get my Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 to work with it, so i may be up late tonight playing.  :)  I need to read back thru this thread for tips, etc.
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
It's generally thought of as the most difficult Ace Combat for the uninitiated, but if you've played any of the other games, you'll do just fine. Just make sure to follow your briefing and mid-mission updates and you'll do fine.

 

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Thanks!  I've played a couple of hours of Assault Horizon, and maybe 8 hours of AC6. 


Here is my journey with the Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 joystick and Ace Combat 7.  I remembered reading a Reddit post about getting the game to work with Logitech sticks, and applied the info in that thread to my stick.  And omgoodness it worked!  Well, mostly.  While everything works out of the box in the menus, it took a little more to get the hat switch to work to change views during flight.  More on that later.

https://www.reddit.com/r/acecombat/comments/bty5xn/logitechsaitek_sticks_and_hotas_now_supported_on/

I started the game with my joystick plugged in but none of the controls did anything.  I exited the game, and when I went to the input.in file at C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment\ACE COMBAT 7\Config, I saw this:

[Joystick-001B045E-0000-0000-0000-504944564944]
ProductName=SideWinder Force Feedback 2 Joystick
Flight_Gun=
Flight_Missile=
.
.
.

So the game was at least acknowledging the joystick, and it appeared that I just needed to add values for each parameter.  I made a backup of the existing input.ini, then I pasted the values from the reddit post over the existing values in input.ini.  It worked right out of the box, but I adjusted a few values to match my play style.  Those are pasted here.

Flight_Gun=Button1
Flight_Missile=Button2
Flight_Weapon=Button6
Flight_Target=Button3
Flight_Radar=Button5
Flight_Flare=Button4
Flight_View=Button8
Flight_AccelerationDeceleration=
Flight_AutoPilot=Button7
Flight_Pause=
Flight_HatSwitchUp=
Flight_HatSwitchDown=
Flight_HatSwitchLeft=
Flight_HatSwitchRight=
Flight_Pitch=Y:R
Flight_Roll=X
Flight_Yaw=Rz
Flight_Throttle=Slider1
Flight_CameraPitch=POV_U1 + POV_D1:R
Flight_CameraYaw=POV_R1 + POV_L1:R
UI_B=Button2
UI_A=Button1
UI_X=Button3
UI_Y=Button4
UI_LB=
UI_RB=
UI_LT=
UI_RT=
UI_LeftStickPress=Button5
UI_RightStickPress=Button6
UI_DPadUp=POV_U1
UI_DPadDown=POV_D1
UI_DPadLeft=POV_L1
UI_DPadRight=POV_R1
UI_LeftStickUp=Y:N
UI_LeftStickDown=Y:P
UI_LeftStickLeft=X:N
UI_LeftStickRight=X:P
UI_RightStickUp=
UI_RightStickDown=
UI_RightStickLeft=
UI_RightStickRight=
UI_Menu=Button7


I don't know what "Flight_AccelerationDeceleration" is.  I can do high-G turns by sliding the throttle down as i turn, but maybe there is some other ability I have not discovered yet (I've only played three missions so far).  If so i can rebind Button7 to it since I rarely use autopilot anyway.


Edit: I found instruction for the POV hat here: https://steamcommunity.com/app/502500/discussions/0/1638661595064594449/

"You can binding cameraPitch and Yaw to Hat switch this way
Flight_CameraPitch=POV_U1 + POV_D1:R
Flight_CameraYaw=POV_R1 + POV_L1:R
but it works only absolute, so you will look full up, full down, full left and right what mean back.

I recommend make empty this lines,
Flight_HatSwitchUp=
Flight_HatSwitchDown=
Flight_HatSwitchLeft=
Flight_HatSwitchRight=
or you will in multiplayer send message every time you press the HAT switch."

I made these changes and updated the above.  It's not quite the same action as if you are using a controller, but it is better than nothing.  And the thread gives instruction to make it even more like using a controller, utilizing vJoy and FreePIE and a script.  I may or may not try this.  As little as I look around it probably is fine for me.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2020, 10:20:52 am by deathspeed »
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Offline Det. Bullock

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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
So, stimulated by deathspeed's post above I decided to reinstall the game and after taking the x360ce files out of the game folder I ran the game once, looked into the input.ini and the game now detects CH products equipment without issues.

Here's my work in progress config:
[Joystick-C0F1068E-0000-0000-0000-504944564944]
ProductName=CH Pro Throttle USB
Flight_Gun=
Flight_Missile=
Flight_Weapon=
Flight_Target=
Flight_Radar=
Flight_Flare=
Flight_View=Button14
Flight_AccelerationDeceleration=
Flight_AutoPilot=Button13
Flight_Pause=Button16
Flight_HatSwitchUp=POV_U1
Flight_HatSwitchDown=POV_D1
Flight_HatSwitchLeft=POV_L1
Flight_HatSwitchRight=POV_R1
Flight_Pitch=
Flight_Roll=
Flight_Yaw=Button2 + Button3:R
Flight_Throttle=Z
Flight_CameraPitch=Y
Flight_CameraYaw=X
UI_B=
UI_A=
UI_X=
UI_Y=
UI_LB=
UI_RB=
UI_LT=
UI_RT=
UI_LeftStickPress=
UI_RightStickPress=
UI_DPadUp=
UI_DPadDown=
UI_DPadLeft=
UI_DPadRight=
UI_LeftStickUp=
UI_LeftStickDown=
UI_LeftStickLeft=
UI_LeftStickRight=
UI_RightStickUp=
UI_RightStickDown=
UI_RightStickLeft=
UI_RightStickRight=
UI_Menu=Button16

[Joystick-C0F4068E-0000-0000-0000-504944564944]
ProductName=CH Combatstick USB
Flight_Gun=Button1
Flight_Missile=Button2
Flight_Weapon=Button8
Flight_Target=Button3
Flight_Radar=Button5
Flight_Flare=Button4
Flight_View=Button14
Flight_AccelerationDeceleration=
Flight_AutoPilot=
Flight_Pause=
Flight_HatSwitchUp=
Flight_HatSwitchDown=
Flight_HatSwitchLeft=
Flight_HatSwitchRight=
Flight_Pitch=Y:R
Flight_Roll=X
Flight_Yaw=
Flight_Throttle=
Flight_CameraPitch=
Flight_CameraYaw=
UI_B=Button2
UI_A=Button1
UI_X=Button3
UI_Y=Button4
UI_LB=Button10
UI_RB=Button8
UI_LT=
UI_RT=
UI_LeftStickPress=Button6
UI_RightStickPress=Button5
UI_DPadUp=POV_U1
UI_DPadDown=POV_D1
UI_DPadLeft=POV_L1
UI_DPadRight=POV_R1
UI_LeftStickUp=Y:N
UI_LeftStickDown=Y:P
UI_LeftStickLeft=X:N
UI_LeftStickRight=X:P
UI_RightStickUp=
UI_RightStickDown=
UI_RightStickLeft=
UI_RightStickRight=
UI_Menu=
« Last Edit: April 21, 2020, 11:05:45 pm by Det. Bullock »
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Re: Ace Combat 7 - All the strangereal please
Has anybody tried the latest DLCs? If so, how are they? I had to uninstall the game - temporarily - because I've got a couple of other games draining much of the memory.
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