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Offline Gray113

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Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
Would the UEF surrender be end of act 4 or during act 5?

Were Caulder and Netreba willingly sacrificing themselves for the node ship to reach its target or did they just F things up?

 
Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
Gonna bet act 4. We've known the act names for ages, and 5 is called Revenant. As in, after the death of the UEF. Also, Morrigan in Shadow is basically a de-Vishnaned rewrite of act 5 AFAIK.
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Would the UEF surrender be end of act 4 or during act 5?

Were Caulder and Netreba willingly sacrificing themselves for the node ship to reach its target or did they just F things up?

End of Act 4. The Eris and Toutatis get knocked out/destroyed earlier, during the Fall of Mars. Calder goes out doing exactly what he wanted - fighting an all-in brawl with Steele, no subspace speed chess, no ECM wizardry, no Just As Planned for Steele to dance away unscathed.

 

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Did Admiral Netreba survive the Eris getting heavily damaged and knocked out of action?

 

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Yes.

 
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Are glowpoint overrides ever going to be added in the game again like they were when act 3 was newly released in 2014

 
Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
Calder goes out doing exactly what he wanted - fighting an all-in brawl with Steele, no subspace speed chess, no ECM wizardry, no Just As Planned for Steele to dance away unscathed.
If Calder gets the exact situation he wanted, then why does he lose? Incompetence, bad luck, suicidal tendencies, or did he willingly engage with his fleet at a disadvantage? If the latter, why?

 

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Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
If Calder gets the exact situation he wanted, then why does he lose? Incompetence, bad luck, suicidal tendencies, or did he willingly engage with his fleet at a disadvantage? If the latter, why?

The situation he wanted was a brutal brawling match between his Destroyers and Steele's. He is, in many ways, very GTVA-like in his thinking: Where the GTVA is looking for a Lucifer or Sathanas whose destruction will mark, if not the end, then at least the turning point of a conflict, Calder is looking for Steele. He wants, metaphorically speaking, to have a battle of champions to decide the war.

Calder thinks he has a chance to win this fight. He believes that, if he can get into a close-range fight, he can nullify the GTVA's advantages; Using his superior maneuverability and (individually) superior strikecraft to suppress the immense forward firepower of Atreus and Imperieuse long enough for his ballistic weaponry to inflict crippling damage on the other side.

Unfortunately for him, Steele is just as adept at reading a tac plot and coming up with countermaneuvers as he is -- And unlike Calder, who has to keep the GTVA ships in range and under fire for a long time to inflict significant damage, Steele only needs a small window of opportunity to do the same to the UEF vessels.

The moral of the story is that, even when you do manage to create the most favourable situation you can, victory isn't assured.
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Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
That's an age old immutable fact. 

So steele survived Calder?
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Calder goes out doing exactly what he wanted - fighting an all-in brawl with Steele, no subspace speed chess, no ECM wizardry, no Just As Planned for Steele to dance away unscathed.
If Calder gets the exact situation he wanted, then why does he lose? Incompetence, bad luck, suicidal tendencies, or did he willingly engage with his fleet at a disadvantage? If the latter, why?

When you're losing the deterministic war, your only hope of victory is to take chances.

Plus, at this point Calder's motive wasn't so much to win the war as to make Steele hurt - to remind him that war isn't just a chess game where victory is all that matters. He forced Steele into the kind of fight Steele doesn't like, and made him pay for it.

 

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Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
I'm starting to think hope that this thread is a false flag by the team and we will have the glorious release of BP war in heaven acts 4 & 5 next week featuring a completely different plot, followed by act 1 of Blue planet 3..........


A man can dream right?  :confused:

 

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He forced Steele into the kind of fight Steele doesn't like, and made him pay for it.

So we get to kill Serkr team? Wohoo  :D

 
Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
I'm starting to think hope that this thread is a false flag by the team and we will have the glorious release of BP war in heaven acts 4 & 5 next week featuring a completely different plot, followed by act 1 of Blue planet 3..........


A man can dream right?  :confused:

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That's an age old immutable fact. 

So steele survived Calder?


It was said earlier Steele was able to get into bombardment positions over Earth so I'm guessing yes.


Also GB, to echo another question here, what did happen to Serkr?

 

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How did steele deal with the Fedayeen? What's the head/ship count for both sides at the end of the act?

 

Offline QuakeIV

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Did the masyaf get exploded at the end of act 3?

 

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Did the masyaf get exploded at the end of act 3?

No. Knocked out for a bit though.

 
Re: The Blue Planet Oracle (full BP2/3 spoilers within!)
Are glowpoint overrides ever going to be added in the game again like they were when act 3 was newly released in 2014
Can someone please tell

 

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>ponders for a day or so

Does the Indus ever return to some kind of service?

 

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>ponders for a day or so

Does the Indus ever return to some kind of service?

That might depend on how irradiated it was. I doubt many crews would volunteer for a ship that glows in the dark 😜
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