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Offline TheCelestialOne

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OT- why doesn't anybody want us to go into Iraq
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Originally posted by vyper


Its an island, not a continent.


Sorry, was talking about America.

Then go back to your island and don't think you can decide over the fate of the world.
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Offline CP5670

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Cornering him so that there's no way out, no way to survive for him might very will trigger Saddam to use everything he has, to cause as much hurt as he can. After all, he'll be dead/out of power soon.


The solution to this is simple: something like blitzkrieg, or lightning war. Destroy everything there completely before he has time to respond. (actually, a good idea is to send in commando teams to eliminate him first, and then immediately begin a surprise assault; this would already cause a good portion of his army to turn disloyal) Time is critical here, but with today's technology, the nation can easily be overtaken in a few hours, along with the deaths of all the high military officers.

I don't see how he would be dead or out of power any time soon as long as he is alive, and nobody within the nation is going to be so foolish as to try and stand against him. As long as he is alive, he is a threat.

 

Offline Crazy_Ivan80

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Originally posted by vyper
All the more reason to stop him now.


Have you even read what I posted? This is what will/could/might happen if/when you attack.
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OT- why doesn't anybody want us to go into Iraq
Nah the millitary infrastructure is too big and well trained for a "lightning assault" with no backing to topple anything.

They how ever couldnt resist a drive by anything approaching Corps sized, its not going to be a high casualty conflict. The only problem is world oil price.

And stop raggin on Europe FFS, this is the first time in 10 years America left behind some of its isolationist policies, Europe was destroyed by war only 60 years ago, in Germany those wounds still havnt healed.

France and Britain are always up for a scrap IF its justified. I say go for it, but theres not enough proof to placate the large liberal communities in any country (including your own).

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Wait- what war? Saddam isn't really concerned with attacking anyone else around, and hasn't been since the Gulf War. He knows that attacking a significant source of Amerikan oil would mean the end of him, in a cloud of long-range missiles and bombs fired at complete random in his general direction. There's no way in hell he'd start a war, and there's no justifiable reason to go in there and kill people until and unless he starts one.

 

Offline JR2000Z

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do you think they realy like him as there ruler?




Do you think they had a choice? He killed anyone who threatened him.
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Offline Stryke 9

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Nothing new. He's not half as bad as most despots in history. Truth is, if the majority of people hated him so much they felt they had nothing to lose by overthrowiung him, he'd be dead by now. Simple fact of numbers- a good chunk of the population, fighting street warfare with whatever armanent they have handy on turf THEY understand implicitly, against any army, factoring in the number of military defections that result from attacking the civilian populace, amounts of captured weaponry, etc., etc.- He'd have a year of rebellion, then he'd be lynched in the streets. Simple as that, and there's really no denying it, since it has never failed. However, that ain't gonna happen. I'd wager one of the main reasons why is the unifying power that a constant state of siege by the U.S. has- it has a tendency to make the government more popular than ever. Look at what happened over even the little panic after September 11- now imagine the few days after that, when the mass's attention span was still on "we're under attack! Yaah! They hate us because we're good! USA! USA!" perpetuated every day, for years on end. Essentially, we're the ones who put him in power, we're the ones that kept him in power, we're the ones who've made him more beloved than ever.

 

Offline CP5670

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Nah the millitary infrastructure is too big and well trained for a "lightning assault" with no backing to topple anything.


Yes, but you see, few of them are really loyal to him, and a good portion of his army will stop fighting when the new spread that he is dead. The best thing would be to strike at the heart first and eliminate all the top men, and then move outward from Baghdad.

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Essentially, we're the ones who put him in power, we're the ones that kept him in power


So let us also be the ones to take him out of power. :D

 

Offline Stryke 9

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Why? We're doing such a good job!

Actually, we should be doing neither. Shortly after we stop getting involved, the people stop fixating on the enemy in the west, realize what a pain in the ass he is, and he's gone. Wham. We're still there, to defend our allies, so he won't be able to start another war too successfully to replace the current stalemate, and without threats from outside he's nothing. Just like Castro's free nation would be another of our poor, small-island slaves within months if we stopped the embargoes against him.

 
OT- why doesn't anybody want us to go into Iraq
We never faught the republican guard in large numbers, these will be more loyal then the conscripts (and better trained).