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So, here are the models I found on the Celestia addon page several years back: https://www.mediafire.com/file/lm6osoiza7bfwp5/FirstOnes.7z
If they are converted to POF it should push the quality of the First Ones ships from the beginning of the HTL era up to current standards with some of them having 50+k polies, the Sigma Walker ship even 127k.

I also included a file called babylon5_1.zip, because the website said the other models were depending on it (though, this seemed something only Celestia-specific). Anyway, it contains some nice 70k B5 model, too.
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Offline 0rph3u5

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Can you provide the original link? - It'd be a shame if the creators got uncredited if these end up being used...
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nysa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."

 
I got them from here: http://celestiamotherlode.net/catalog/fic_babylon5.php

Sadly the site provides no credits (aside the uploader) either, nor was anything in the files.

 
I'm actually trying to track a lot of material that has been worked on (and probably has been completed), but never made it into Zathras.

1. Lots of new models including a HTL Sharlin - by Emi ( https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=79090.0 ), pics from page 3 on are still working; also atleast the Sigma Walker ship appears to have been brought operational already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or6K1gdry0w
2. Lens flares (not sure if in) - also Emi: https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=78870.msg1600460
3. AFAIK, there has been a major TBP related upgrade, independent of Zathras (that's were I got the new interface from). I DLed it from HLP, last year or so, but I haven't been able to find it again since.

 
I believe Robert Arthur mentioned that he had worked on some of the models. He is on Facebook and works for the DOD at the moment so he doesn't have access to this site.

 
Interesting. I actually see a lot of upgrade potential in these models for TBP, should I just go ahead and ask what happened to the ones he worked on?

 

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Interesting. I actually see a lot of upgrade potential in these models for TBP, should I just go ahead and ask what happened to the ones he worked on?

Yes, that would be great!

 
I sent a PM to Emi and asked him about the models. :)

 

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Hi to all!  :)
A great plesure to see these post and the internal message  :)

I have all of those files somewhere.. I have to look for then.
The reason why I not release them was that I was the only one working on them and it was to much work (hardpoints -lots of hardpoints-, test, etc)
And some of them have some issue.
But I think i can share them with the proper credits of their owners. I had the proper permision to use and shere them with these condition.

Today I had move to Unreal Engine. I want to do an Interactive experience of B5 station, like the Star Trek Enterprise D project

Not get me wrong. I love FreeSpace <3, but I hate the poof editor :D
Anyway I haven't had time to work on any of these projects right now.. I'm close to graduating from university.
I have some missions too (i think I had two finished at 100% with voice from the movie) from my unreleased campaign from the ThirdSpace.
And I also had a working .exe with light shaft and shadows.

I'll look for them. I think I have them on a Google Drive. I always was afraid to loose them.
DEDICATED TO ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO PREDICTED
THAT THE BABYLON
PROJEECT WOULD FAIL IN
ITS MISSION.

-------FAITH MANAGES------
  • Normal Maps for -The Babylon Project-
  • "Battle at ..." (Campaign) You can't choose when, but you will choose where... and you will fight! GO NOW!
  • "One Mistake" (Third Space Campaign)
  • "Each Night I Dream of Home" (Crusade Single Mision)

 
Great to hear that your files haven't been lost, they're made of pure awesomeness! :)

 

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Noticed TBP 3.6.2 doesn't have a framework for the armor-system. Set-up the tables, does nothing yet (everything is set to multiply damage by 1) but this means if you use SEXPs that change armor class or damage type the "reset to normal" function would work without problems.
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nysa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."

 
Should I rename the thread to something like "Post 3-6-0 development thread"?

 

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well, I have updates: Some good news
I found the raw models, and some of the textures I made back then.
Still I haven't found my TBP game folder, where I had all the models converted to poof, textures, tables, fx, and the .exe with shadows and light shafts..
I don't lost hope yet, I have to serch on old backups drives and old dvds.. It's been a while.
Anyway, I'll make a donwload to the thing I had found ;)
DEDICATED TO ALL THE
PEOPLE WHO PREDICTED
THAT THE BABYLON
PROJEECT WOULD FAIL IN
ITS MISSION.

-------FAITH MANAGES------
  • Normal Maps for -The Babylon Project-
  • "Battle at ..." (Campaign) You can't choose when, but you will choose where... and you will fight! GO NOW!
  • "One Mistake" (Third Space Campaign)
  • "Each Night I Dream of Home" (Crusade Single Mision)

 

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and the .exe with shadows and light shafts..

Shadows are now part of the code in FS_Open - lightshafts are too* but I think TBP might be lacking the proper tables for that.

*EDIT: like this
"When you work with water, you have to know and respect it. When you labour to subdue it, you have to understand that one day it may rise up and turn all your labours into nothing. For what is water, which seeks to make all things level, which has no taste or colour of its own, but a liquid form of Nothing?" - Graham Swift, Waterland

"As you sought to steal a kingdom for yourself, so must you do again, a thousand times over. For a theft, a true theft, must be practiced to be earned." - The terms of Nysa's curse, Pathfinder: Kingmaker

"...because they are not Dragons."