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Offline jr2

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If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Windows 7 support ended today (unless you've got Enterprise, in which case you can pay an increasing annual fee starting at $100 to retain support, for up to three years).  As far as I know, you can still get the free upgrade by downloading Windows 10 from Microsoft here, as outlined in this ZDNet article.   You can always uninstall later if it doesn't work.

EDIT: Oh, and disable the telemetry stuff with O&O ShutUp10.
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
XP FTW!    :D
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
If I wanted to use the free Windows 10 upgrade I would have either done it when it became available or when Win 10 has matured a bit.

I might be at some point forced to switch if I want to use some of the most recent hardware or play some modern games, but today definitely isn't the day.
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I am using Win7-64 and my intention is to pick up an SSD this summer (funds depending) and a copy of Win10-64 and set it up as a dual-boot system.
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I have a pretty complicated setup with 7 controllers and some older games.  I was worried that a Windows 10 upgrade would make life miserable but I did an image of my Windows 7 64 system and used the Windows Update Assistant  and did an upgrade to Windows 10 Pro for free. Any legal Win7 key will let you do this for free.  I  had no problems with any of my older games running and I think it actually runs some games better.

I then went around the house and upgraded all my machines.

Do it while it is still free,

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I created a new 7 partition on both my own and my parents' machines and upgraded them to 10 back when the free upgrade was first announced. I didn't even touch them until this weekend when I used GParted to resize them and start actually using 10. There were some misadventures (GParted nerfed something with booting on both partitions, so I had to use my 7 install disk to repair things), but so far so decent.

 
Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I have been very satisfied with Win10. only thing that was an inconvenience I had to do was disable the tracking/logging. Other than that I just don't mess with much and let windows handle itself (except active update hours - configured those for something that works for me and have been satisfied so far).

Honestly 10 is probably my favorite windows to date, and I've spent a lot of time using 2000, XP, and 7.

 

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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I'm assuming all the people refusing to leave 7 are the same ones who refused to leave XP? NEW BAD, OLD GOOD. HARUMPH.
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Seriously. Win10 is fine. It's got all the functionality. Everything works. How much more "maturity" do you want?
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I think I might get win-10 and/or make a duel-boot after I get some upgrades.

I'm not sure I can just put 10 in this machine as smoothly as everyone else here. . . .


*looks at super old motherboard that can't accept more then 8 GB of RAM*

*looks at how I have a duel-boot with Ubuntu that does not work very well*

*Thinks about how I have to use Ctrl-Shift-Esc and create a new task to manually finish the booting the PC because the registry's so borked*

*Stares in horror at realization that drive-cloning may not work / might cause these issues to carry over*

*and how my files are spread over my two hard-drives and that I need to go in and sort/save them all*

*looks at all the no-money I have for a new machine*


. . .


I'll have to wait a few more months. . .
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I have been very satisfied with Win10. only thing that was an inconvenience I had to do was disable the tracking/logging. Other than that I just don't mess with much and let windows handle itself (except active update hours - configured those for something that works for me and have been satisfied so far).

Honestly 10 is probably my favorite windows to date, and I've spent a lot of time using 2000, XP, and 7.

Oh, thanks, I forgot.  Disable telemetry with O&O ShutUp10.

Really, if you're on 7, at least get the upgrade on a cloned partition or drive or something.  Win 10 is much faster (uses newer tech such as memory compression, which is much faster than using uncompressed memory pages, etc).  That way you at least have the option to use 10 later.

EDIT: Oh, and look, the cleanest way to do this is a clean install, either replacing, or dual-booting with your current OS, after you complete the upgrade.  Once you've finished the upgrade and gone online, your hardware is licenced for Windows 10 and you can clean install Win 10 straight from a flash drive onto a wiped or new drive, and it will auto-activate once it's online.

As has been mentioned, you can use a valid Win 7 / 8 / 8.1 key during a clean install to do the same thing, and you could get the key using Magical Jellybean Keyfinder, however some AV software think it's a virus (it isn't, it can just *shock* read your product keys :rolleyes: ).
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Seriously. Win10 is fine. It's got all the functionality. Everything works. How much more "maturity" do you want?

Win10 has a tendency to mess up compatibility with older games with each update. And I don't mean old games as they are, I mean the gog versions with the fixes and everything.
My experience on the gog forums is that if someone has some weird issue that should have already been solved he probably has windows 10.

I'll still probably need to make the jump sooner or later but I am in no rush.
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Seriously. Win10 is fine. It's got all the functionality. Everything works. How much more "maturity" do you want?

Win10 has a tendency to mess up compatibility with older games with each update. And I don't mean old games as they are, I mean the gog versions with the fixes and everything.
My experience on the gog forums is that if someone has some weird issue that should have already been solved he probably has windows 10.

I'll still probably need to make the jump sooner or later but I am in no rush.

Does running older games in compatability mode make a difference?

 

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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Seriously. Win10 is fine. It's got all the functionality. Everything works. How much more "maturity" do you want?

Win10 has a tendency to mess up compatibility with older games with each update. And I don't mean old games as they are, I mean the gog versions with the fixes and everything.
My experience on the gog forums is that if someone has some weird issue that should have already been solved he probably has windows 10.

I'll still probably need to make the jump sooner or later but I am in no rush.

Does running older games in compatability mode make a difference?
From what I understand no, because it's not the games themselves but the various compatibility fixes that got broken like the wrappers for the redbook audio many older windows games had.
Sometimes it's also windows randomly disabling legacy features that were enabled before updating, directplay is the most frequent.
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I was about to write that I have had zero issues with games on Windows 10, but then you reminded me that I had to go manually enable DirectPlay.  Win10 also does not play nice (or at all, really) with SecuROM DRM, but for all of my SuckuWRONG games I was already using a no-disc .exe.  I still have an XP partition set up from when I migrated to Windows 7 64-bit, in case I needed it for some older games, but I literally have not touched that partition in years. 
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Win10 also does not play nice (or at all, really) with SecuROM DRM

Given how DRM used to work I think this might be a feature.

 
Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
Actually, do tell - are there any accessible ways to make the Win10 interface more like a normal system? (Compared to Win 7 at least, I really like my functional interface on my device that will not see any sort of touch screen or tablet EVER)
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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I use Open Shell to get the start menu to look like Win7.

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

 

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Re: If you're still on Windows 7, now might be a good time to use the free upgrade
I use Open Shell to get the start menu to look like Win7.

https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

I used to, but now I use Start Menu Reviver

https://www.reviversoft.com/start-menu-reviver/

Also, have a look here for a list of those kind of programs: https://alternativeto.net/software/classic-start/



So, to address compatibility: see if you can set up dual-boot and have one Win 10 partition for everything that's not old and Win 7 for everything else.  You can still as far as I can tell use Windows 7 using your key on a different partition.

You can also delay Windows 10 updates for a long time and move into even more stable update rings than the normal ring Windows has, IIRC.  I forget the Group Policy tweaks you have to apply, but I've done them and it's much less annoying now (I also forced the auto-restart off).

First if you have Win 10 Home: https://www.itechtics.com/enable-gpedit-windows-10-home/

https://tweaks.com/windows/67201/configure-windows-10-to-prompt-for-update-installs/

https://4sysops.com/archives/disable-windows-10-update-in-the-registry-and-with-powershell/


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I can't remember the last time I scrolled the start menu...

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