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Offline Mongoose

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Having honestly no clue about your constitution, I'm asking genuinely if there any clause where he can get binned for just being bloody bad.

Nnnnnnope, at least not in the way you're thinking.  The 25th Amendment has a section addresses a method whereby the vice-president and majority of the Cabinet can declare their belief that the president is incapable of executing the duties of office.  (The section before it gives a method for the president to do the same, i.e. before undergoing anesthesia for surgery.)  If this were to occur, a series of steps is laid out which potentially culminates in both the House and Senate needing a two-thirds majority vote in order to confirm it.  Were they to do so, then the vice-president would effectively serve as acting president until the current term is up and elections are held.  Needless to say, as much as "invoke the 25th" has become a popular hashtag, there's a snowball's chance in hell of it actually happening: the vice-president and Cabinet are sycophantic boot-lickers to a man, and even if they did have a shred of moral fiber, Republicans control the Senate and have more than a 1/3 minority in the House.  Basically, no matter how ****ty a president is doing, we're essentially stuck with them through the current four-year cycle.

Now, if you're talking about a president doing something flat-out illegal, obviously there's the separate process of impeachment, but, well, we all saw how that played out.

 
 

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Having honestly no clue about your constitution, I'm asking genuinely if there any clause where he can get binned for just being bloody bad.

Nnnnnnope, at least not in the way you're thinking.  The 25th Amendment has a section addresses a method whereby the vice-president and majority of the Cabinet can declare their belief that the president is incapable of executing the duties of office.  (The section before it gives a method for the president to do the same, i.e. before undergoing anesthesia for surgery.)  If this were to occur, a series of steps is laid out which potentially culminates in both the House and Senate needing a two-thirds majority vote in order to confirm it.  Were they to do so, then the vice-president would effectively serve as acting president until the current term is up and elections are held.  Needless to say, as much as "invoke the 25th" has become a popular hashtag, there's a snowball's chance in hell of it actually happening: the vice-president and Cabinet are sycophantic boot-lickers to a man, and even if they did have a shred of moral fiber, Republicans control the Senate and have more than a 1/3 minority in the House.  Basically, no matter how ****ty a president is doing, we're essentially stuck with them through the current four-year cycle.

Now, if you're talking about a president doing something flat-out illegal, obviously there's the separate process of impeachment, but, well, we all saw how that played out.

Come on guys, revolution made your country.  Just a wee uprising long enough to stave his head in then back to normal business please? :)

 
Because, Dekker, much like your own Lunatic-in-Chief, there is a HUGE swath of the population that actually believe him.

No matter how many times you tell yourself, "C'mon, no one can be THAT stupid," the fact is that despite everything he's done that flies in the face of any common sense, that is amoral, unethical, unnecessarily cruel, that has hurt the very people who claim he's their savior, despite Coronavirus, despite heading into an economic crash the likes of which we've not seen in my lifetime, despite all of the prevention he completely FAILED TO DO, there's still better than an outside chance he'll win again in November.
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Plus, they have most of the guns (in civilian hands, anyway).

 

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Partner making us masks at home. She's volunteered to sew medical gowns, but this will require a long trip to a pickup point for the materials, and we're not going to risk the subway and all its fomites.

 
Yeah, subway sounds like second only to a hospital for infectiousness.

 

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Yeah, subway sounds like second only to a hospital for infectiousness.

Do grocery stores get third place? :nervous:
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No, I think schools, churches, games, cinemas and stuff like that share the third place. Or actually rank higher than hospitals.
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Offline General Battuta

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Don't worry, everyone! The White House estimates that at minimum we'll only lose 1 out of every 3000 Americans. That's not a very big number! Most of us only know about 600 people.

 

Offline Su-tehp

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Only in a timeline as f*cked up as this one could the President* of the United States declare a death toll from a virus two to four times deadlier than the entire Vietnam War a "win."

I f*cking hate the Trump cult and everyone still in it. GOP delenda est.
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Only in a timeline as f*cked up as this one could the President* of the United States declare a death toll from a virus two to four times deadlier than the entire Vietnam War a "win."

I f*cking hate the Trump cult and everyone still in it. GOP delenda est.

"delendus" is more appropriate I think.

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Or perhaps "delendum"? It's kind of difficult to tell.
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I really hope you are right, but I don't think you are.  There are a lot of Republicans thoroughly disgusted with Trump, but only because he's a dunderheaded lummox, not because they have in any way internalized that the policies he and his party espouses are leading the human race right off the edge of a cliff.  Unless this crisis forces them to come to grips with THAT...
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An interesting look at media in times of crisis

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Right before social distancing became all but mandatory, I had my brother and <5 friends over for pizza and watching Contagion. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but low-key made me anxious. Aside from the extremely high mortality rate of that bug, it's eerie how parallel that movie is to real life right now, even down to being a virus in the SARS family.

 

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small brain: Coronavirus is serious

large brain: Coronavirus requires immediate response

star brain: Coronavirus is a chinese plot

galaxy brain: Can't have any 'rona outbreaks if noone is allowed to talk about it
Let there be light
Let there be moon
Let there be stars and let there be you
Let there be monsters and let there be pain
Let us begin to feel again
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Out of the 50 states, Florida has the 5th highest median age, and currently has the 5th highest number of confirmed cases... and we're one of the 18 states that still haven't shut down.

Maybe we won't rank 5th in median age when this is over.

  

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Think of all that new real estate on the market 👍👍

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What real estate? There's no ****ing housing market in the US.
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Best get schmoozing those old dears to get written into some wills. 👵👵👍👍😍