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Offline Razor

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Jedi Outcast for consoles.
Now call me crazy but (with no offence to the game no it's fans) but the graphics of this game on console just SUCK!

Take a look. Here is one from XBOX  (I think):



And here is one taken from a PC:


Notice any differences? I do! :D

By the way. Do you guys think that there's gonna be a sequel for this game?

 

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i'd rather be skywalker ;7

 

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Pfft. Xbox. :p
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Offline Redfang

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Re: Jedi Outcast for consoles.
Pff. Consoles. :p
 
Well, it isn't that much worse on the x-box, but it's odd, usually x-box games look better... but that's a conversion. Edit: Actually it's not that much worse, but it's because it's for TV and the gamma and brightness are odd, as is the resolution. Edit2: The PC version would probably look much more better, if it'd be running on like Radeon 9700, 1600x1200, 6xAA, 16xAF. :p And of course at acceptable framerates (The R9700 can do that). :D

Anyway, not the graphics (well yes also those), but the controls...
 
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By the way. Do you guys think that there's gonna be a sequel for this game?

 
I hope so.
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Look at the jaggedy edges on it though, ugly as hell. Thank god for the PC version.

  

Offline Razor

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My point's exactly Thunder. Lok at the saber hilt on the XBOX and compare it with the one on PC. The one on PC has more detail, the graphics are (as we graphic newbs would say) sharper.
Second, look at the Kyle model and you can see that it is much better detailed almost like they filmed the man, not like it was made on a computer. PC version OWNS any console version.

By the way. Skywalker is a wimp. He fights like one. He just does some crouching attacks and such. Once I made him fight Desann, he didn't live longer than 15 seconds. In my first fight against Desann, I fought for about 1,5 minutes before I was so bruttaly suffercated.

 

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By the way, Thunder, on which video options are you running the game? Do you have those annoying karate(sp) chops while playing?

 

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I've got everything on full at 1280x1024 but I do get chops, at some stage I need to tone things down a tad and try and sort that out as it makes lightsaber combat impossible.

 

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*Zeronet points to Halo 2's Graphics*
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So why couldn't they make JK2 look like that then, hmm? :)

 

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*Zeronet points to Halo 2's Graphics*

 
*Redfang points to Doom III graphics*

 

Offline Razor

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Quote
Originally posted by Thunder
I've got everything on full at 1280x1024 but I do get chops, at some stage I need to tone things down a tad and try and sort that out as it makes lightsaber combat impossible.


Impossible? You don't know what is impossible. Come here and play the game on my 450, 128 on fastest video settings and see if you won't blow up your top when playing the Artus topside mission. Now that's impossible, so be happy that you are not in my skin.

 

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Impossible? You don't know what is impossible. Come here and play the game on my 450, 128 on fastest video settings and see if you won't blow up your top when playing the Artus topside mission. Now that's impossible, so be happy that you are not in my skin.

 
Bah. On my friend's PIII 600MHz, 8MB integrated graphics, the JKII multiplayer against bots ran at about 10-20fps, at all on lowest details, 640x480x16. Unplayable, though some maps ran a bit better, at 30fps probably. :doubt:
 
And, on my 466MHz it'd run worse (most likely), as I have the same graphics.

 

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So why couldn't they make JK2 look like that then, hmm? :)


A: They arent Bungie
B: Its a converstion
C: Im sure they have multiple reasons, like A and B.
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Originally posted by Zeronet


A: They arent Bungie
B: Its a converstion
C: Im sure they have multiple reasons, like A and B.

 
D: TV's a big limitation with 640x480 and not so good image quality anyway.

 

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I always thought TV could output at 800x600... I seem to recall mine can. That said I agree that there'll be a quality hit, but it should still look better than that... ah well.

 

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I always thought TV could output at 800x600... I seem to recall mine can. That said I agree that there'll be a quality hit, but it should still look better than that... ah well.

 
Well, yes, that could be... I don't know about TV's. But I think console games have resolution of 640x480, at least most do. If not all.

 

Offline Razor

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Ha taht means taht my PC is even better than any console today. Wooho! Now I can give my old PC to my mom and get me that beast I wanted.

 

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What the heck are you guys talking about? AFAIK, TV maxes out at like 460x320 or so - 640x480 would be a dream!

Meh - on second thought, I looked it up. All I have to say is: Holy Crap! Anyone want to translate that stuff into something resembling English for the temporally-challenged? (I don't have the time) ;)
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill