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Yay or Nay?

Huzzah!
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Wut.
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Rawr.
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*Sneeze*
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Voting closed: January 16, 2012, 10:09:22 am

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Offline mjn.mixael

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« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 04:36:38 pm by mjn.mixael »
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nice pic for freespace 2

 

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The claws are too thick! ;7 Nicely done. It's not hand drawn right? The paws of the lion is the only thing that looks out-of-place, but unless there's a better picture out there, it's not a problem.

 

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No, it's definitely not hand drawn by me...
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I'll have to say no this time around, the reason is because I don't like the eyes and the face.
It's like someone is shoving something up his ass, I know it might be hard to see, specially because this is a lion we're talking about. But anyways I had the feeling that if you take this "expression" and put it into a person on the same position the first thing I would think of is...well that thing I wrote before.

Maybe taking a real lion image and doing some postprocessing on it might yield a better result, I know Herra did the 53rd Hammerheads's insignia like that (IIRC) and it looked quite nice.
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Maybe taking a real lion image and doing some postprocessing on it might yield a better result, I know Herra did the 53rd Hammerheads's insignia like that (IIRC) and it looked quite nice.

Yeah.. I tried that. You will never be able to get a similar look to the original. It's just too stylized. But you are welcome to try yourself. If you come up with better results than I did, then I'll take it.
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Now that's a cool logo. Well suited for the legendary Alpha 1 (of the Capella era).
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Yeah.. I tried that. You will never be able to get a similar look to the original. It's just too stylized.

I get what you are saying, now that I see the original it does seem quite stylized to use a real image as a base indeed.
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I like this pic

 

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I think the main difference from the original is that this image is more realistic. The original had a very muscular, slightly anthropomorphic lion that was making a sort of taxidermied-snarling-beast gesture (the new one looks more like it's climbing an invisible slope). It's reminiscent of the lions of heraldry, but more detailed.
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Yeah I tried making one but I could never get the facial expression right, and the muscle structure and the original logo's emboss/statue-like nature was similarly elusive. Never got it to a stage where it was acceptable or notably better than the version I posed ages ago.

I like this version, even though the position of the lion is actually a far cry from the original (hands inverted, left hind leg too high up, and the tail all different) it is still instantly recognizeable. The claw marks are excellently done.


Regarding the hammerhead logo, I was extremely lucky to find an image of a hammerhead shark in a posture closely resembling the original. I basically did edge detect on it, doctored it a bit to clean up the lines I wanted to go away, and used the result for the shark's outline. In that case, it worked well. I wouldn't like to try it on most other cases, and the reason I did it was mostly because the original hammerhead shark in the logo was a god-awful mess that I couldn't really trace draw around (plus it was kind of badly drawn too I think).

In 70th logo, the original includes a heraldic lion which is a different beast entirely than a real lion. Real lions do not climb on their hind legs and wave their forepaws around in the air while snarling viciously. Bears do, but they still don't resemble the actual heraldic Rampant attitude.
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It's of course much better than the old one but I think the lion needs a bit softer shading. The old one has a slightly 3-dimensional look (I like that).

But that's just criticism to the details. Overall: Me gusta :)
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It's of course much better than the old one but I think the lion needs a bit softer shading. The old one has a slightly 3-dimensional look (I like that).

But that's just criticism to the details. Overall: Me gusta :)

I'll endorse both of these. The old one had more shading gradients, less plain-blue areas; but regardless, you've captured the feel of the original very well.

 

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Something like this perhaps? I tried to add some shading here and there and give it a more 3Dish look...

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Yes, that's better, although I'd give it even more - of course that's just my opinion.

Looking at it in thumbnail size, though, the detail seems to get somewhat lost in scaling... the old one has bolder, darker lines, which stand out more at small scale. And, uh, the cables are too thick tail is too thin, it's just one pixel (in the attachment thumbnail, yes - but on a fighter it won't be much larger than that). Okay, I'll shut up now :nervous:

 

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Hmm, changes to the shape are somewhat more difficult... I'll try some things.. but no promises!
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Offline Thaeris

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I hate to say this, but I like the form of the original emblem better. The shape of the original just fits in the allotted space much better than the new lion, which draws your eyes to the right rather than center.
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le wut. I though *sneeze* was a pretty obvious snuffleupagus...

Also, here's a comparison of versions available. I need one at a higher resolution, so... like it or not, the retail one is out of the question. It scales really badly.

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If the 2nd and the 4th could somehow become one... I think would be best. Shape of the 4th with the shading of the 2nd