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My new model. I decided to make something Fenris- like because I have not found many ships similar to that design. Don't worry. I did not stop the paint job for Hydra. But there are days when I don't have motivation for painting, however I have many ideas for new models.

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Saw this in the other thread and liked it... is that a hangar on the dorsal rear?  ;7
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Offline BirdofPrey

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Oh its actually bigger?  I was thinking it would be around the same size, but a little bulkier
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Yes. This vessel will be bigger then Leviathan and the hangar bay will be able to store 12 fighters and.
The suspense is killing me. :p

 

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Oh its actually bigger?  I was thinking it would be around the same size, but a little bulkier

the Fg designation (Frigate) tends to suggest something between a corvette and a destroyer, though that is a "soft" definition as it has no FS canon confirmation
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Offline BirdofPrey

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Considering FS ship classes go (smallest to largest) cruiser, corvette, destroyer you can't assume the size based on the name mathing that of a naval designation.

I was commenting more to the effect I figured it would be heavier (more armed and armored), but not necessarily (significantly) larger due to the somewhat shared hullform.
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Considering FS ship classes go (smallest to largest) cruiser, corvette, destroyer you can't assume the size based on the name mathing that of a naval designation.

I was commenting more to the effect I figured it would be heavier (more armed and armored), but not necessarily (significantly) larger due to the somewhat shared hullform.

Its based on the Iceni being the only canon combat ship which is attributed as a frigate in some game text.  As i say it is a soft definition.
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In terms of size.
I consider a frigate as a vessel which is bigger or similar size to a corvette. I admit that the size will be determined by the hangar bay which will have to be big enough to store the fighters and all the equipment needed. Though it's not a carrier I want it to look like a self sufficient multi-role warship. I guess that final length will be around 700- 900 meters.

For now I plan to make a GW- era version armed with railguns and  missiles, however I also consider making a second one, armed with beams. That will make the ship more flexible to use in different campaigns
Next thing I will model will be probably the "sting" equipped with AF missile launcher.

Worst nightmare will be of course the bow of the ship. I never liked it in Fenris/Levy however that part made them quite unique (to me they look like they were a bit inspired by present-day ships) and I want to keep it that way.

 

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How about calling it a heavy cruiser?
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Offline An4ximandros

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Support Cruiser...
Ferry Cruiser...
Light Carrier...

Just ideas.

 

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No.

Because frigates are cool and Fg designation is cool as well!
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How long is this thing? Unless it's significantly larger than it appears at first glance, I don't think it's really big enough to qualify as a frigate...

For comparison, the Fenris is 253 meters long, the Deimos is 717 meters long, and the Iceni (the only canonical frigate) is 998 meters long. The impression I get from the P3D preview is that this isn't that much bigger than the Fenris; even if it's twice as long, it still sounds more like an oversized cruiser or an undersized corvette than a frigate.

Of course, I have no idea how big it actually is, hence why I'm asking.
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How long is this thing? Unless it's significantly larger than it appears at first glance, I don't think it's really big enough to qualify as a frigate...

For comparison, the Fenris is 253 meters long, the Deimos is 717 meters long, and the Iceni (the only canonical frigate) is 998 meters long. The impression I get from the P3D preview is that this isn't that much bigger than the Fenris; even if it's twice as long, it still sounds more like an oversized cruiser or an undersized corvette than a frigate.

Of course, I have no idea how big it actually is, hence why I'm asking.

In terms of size.
I consider a frigate as a vessel which is bigger or similar size to a corvette. I admit that the size will be determined by the hangar bay which will have to be big enough to store the fighters and all the equipment needed. Though it's not a carrier I want it to look like a self sufficient multi-role warship. I guess that final length will be around 700- 900 meters.

For now I plan to make a GW- era version armed with railguns and  missiles, however I also consider making a second one, armed with beams. That will make the ship more flexible to use in different campaigns
Next thing I will model will be probably the "sting" equipped with AF missile launcher.

Worst nightmare will be of course the bow of the ship. I never liked it in Fenris/Levy however that part made them quite unique (to me they look like they were a bit inspired by present-day ships) and I want to keep it that way.

So heavy ("tactical" with the hanger?) Corvette, 850-900+ range I would be comfortable calling it a Frigate

end of the day what ever Hornet calls it who ever uses it will almost undoubtedly rename/reclassify it to suit their needs anyway so Hornet says its a frigate, its a frigate.
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Offline BirdofPrey

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As mentioned before, ship size names in Freespace are total bunk anyways
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I would be totally okay with establishing a new nomenclature. :warp:

 

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I don't know how I missed that. :nervous: Thanks, headdie.
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<MageKing17> "There's probably a reason the code is the way it is" is a very dangerous line of thought. :P
<MageKing17> Because the "reason" often turns out to be "nobody noticed it was wrong".
(the very next day)
<MageKing17> this ****ing code did it to me again
<MageKing17> "That doesn't really make sense to me, but I'll assume it was being done for a reason."
<MageKing17> **** ME
<MageKing17> THE REASON IS PEOPLE ARE STUPID
<MageKing17> ESPECIALLY ME

<MageKing17> God damn, I do not understand how this is breaking.
<MageKing17> Everything points to "this should work fine", and yet it's clearly not working.
<MjnMixael> 2 hours later... "God damn, how did this ever work at all?!"
(...)
<MageKing17> so
<MageKing17> more than two hours
<MageKing17> but once again we have reached the inevitable conclusion
<MageKing17> How did this code ever work in the first place!?

<@The_E> Welcome to OpenGL, where standards compliance is optional, and error reporting inconsistent

<MageKing17> It was all working perfectly until I actually tried it on an actual mission.

<IronWorks> I am useful for FSO stuff again. This is a red-letter day!
* z64555 erases "Thursday" and rewrites it in red ink

<MageKing17> TIL the entire homing code is held up by shoestrings and duct tape, basically.

 

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I really like what you've done here, the proportions feel right and it's a novel idea.

A couple of suggestions however. I think the docking ring should be circular (doesn't need to be, but it's my personal preference) and perhaps something on the chin to balance out the bottom engine, but otherwise it's looking pretty good!
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I really like this model as well!  Keep going!