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Goddammit.

What browser are you using?

EDIT: Never mind, for some reason, now it is working. Thanks Spoon, you've been very kind. Now...

Had it coming imo
Cheeky little boat was long overdue for sinking.

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[...]The German Winter Assault of 1920 was one of the first combined arms offensive maneuvers in modern history. Over the course of two months, the German army proceeded to advance in a careful, methodical fashion, with concentrated infantry pushes supported by massive artillery barrages. The 2nd and 4th Armies, under the command of Erich Ludendorff and Herzog Albrecht von Württemberg engaged in successive attempted breakthroughs and encirclements of isolated French forces, pushing the enemy back into Lorraine.[...]

[...]As ill-maintained as they were, the French in-depth fortifications still proved to be a considerable hindrance for the German Heer, especially when one takes into account the bravery of the French defenders; but the Germans quickly brought new, innovative weaponry to bear. New ballistic caps were introduced for the use of field artillery and utilised for the first time to penetrate the French bunkers, to great effect. And the 4th Army was the first to utilise the dreaded German Flammenwerfer for the first time in combat against enemy fixed positions.[...]

[...]A January blizzard slowed the advance after about forty to fifty kilometres from the Rhein, along the Saint-Dié-des-Vosges - Belfort line, where it would remain for the rest of the winter.[...]


-Pierre DeVille, The Lorraine on Fire: a Chronicle of the von Papen Wars, Marseille 1948.



"War is the father of all," said Heraclitus: and the Germans demonstrate the veracity of the argument. In order to break the French fortifications of the Rhein, the Germans develop new ballistic caps for their armor-piercing projectiles. Now shells lose very little velocity when in the air; and they strike harder and deeper. The French bunkers crack like eggshells.



On the 22nd of December, the Ariadne and Amazone spot a French convoy in the Mediterranean. They...vaccilate.



It's three days to Christmas. The French still have one battlecruiser around. Is it worth it, to engage?



No, the Germans decide. Better not to take the risk. Also, the Kriegsmarine still has a modicum of respect for their opponents. We are not the army, slaughtering people on the Holy Days. Let the garlic-chewers through.

(Also, let's not risk our ships against a potential battlecruiser)





Well, scheisse. The Admiralität does not lose any sleep over 8 freighters, but the captains of the light cruisers do feel a certain disappointment when they realise that they could have wiped that convoy out pretty easily.



28 December: and the Derfflinger loses two boilers in a pressure explosion. Eight dead; twenty wounded; and a month in drydock.



Hello, Frau Zelle. What news from Britain?

Wait, the Redoutable? Isn't that the British 15-inch response to the Zähringens? What do you mean it's under construction?



Yeah, it's the old Redout....

Oh. Ooooooooh. How interesting.

'Improved Director', I see. She's being refitted! The Brits are catching up on Fire Control tech. Brilliant. All Germany needed was accurate 15-inch fire from the Brits...







Oh mein Gott.

This is delicious. The ship designers finally submit their preliminary concepts for a new generation of Zerstörer. A new generation that will blow everything the opposition has out of the water, figuratively and literally.

Time to go big.



Urlge.





Double Urgle. Goddammit, the French are outperforming us in submarine warfare?

Yes, alright, the blockade has something to do with that, but 5 German submarines sunk!?

And, um Gottes Willen, SOMEBODY KILL THAT VERFLUCHTEN CRUISER!



Well, at least we have a new quintet of Piepers leaving the yards, to deal with the French subs...



January: and the Winter Offensive reports success across all fronts. Ludendorff and von Württemberg have pushed the French out of Elsass - Lothringen, but have been slowed down by one of the most strong blizzards in the last generation. There is no need to push further - both sides settle down for the rest of the winter. The Germans take the opportunity to consolidate, resupply and reinforce their advance positions.





YES.

AND THE LORD SPAKE THUSLY: 'THOU SHALT BUILD ME A NEW ZERSTÖRER AND IT SHALT BE SWOLE'



God-****ing-



-DAMMIT! Please tell me that somebody has found that bloody cr-



YES! Freya, you magnificent *****!



Hnnnng.



HNNNNG.



....

I have nothing. Herr Stroheim, please explain.





March 1921: and the U-Boote finally manage to extricate their heads from their aft torpedo tubes. Galster deploys them on raids against French patrol ships and coastal traffic: and the U-135 bags herself a French minesweeper.



Not good, by any stretch of the imagination. But better.



And, hey, bigger convoys work! French submarine performance drops by around 50%!



You little hero.



Oh, great. Another French cr-



...

Wait, what?

The Bremen? The little Bremen? The sister-ship of Frauenlob? Built in the nineteenth century? Not properly maintained since 1912?

Catches up to a French cruiser built in (*checks*) 1910? and sinks her?

...

*Checks stats of Bremen*

Crew Quality: Elite



But of course.



And then, because karma's a *****, a French submarine catches Wittelsbach unawares near the Spanish coast. The escorting Zerstörer drive her away, and the German ship reaches harbour safely, but she'll be out of action for at least sixty days.



Her station in the Bay of Biscay patroling force is taken up by the Graf Spee. And on the 21st of April, the Graf gets to avenge her older sister.



Just before midnight, in a pitch-black, overcast night, the Graf Spee and the Lützow are sailing towards the south-east and the Spanish coast, when the faint, directed navigation light of the S15 is obscured by - something. The lookouts of the Graf realise, horrified, that there's a completely blacked-out enemy capital ship less than 500 yards ahead.



The ensuing panicked maneuvering, alarms and all-in-all cluster**** that ensues, results in the Graf opening up with her main guns against an enemy DD in literally point-blank range (less than a hundred yards), blowing the enemy ship clear out of the water. The fireball of the enemy torpedoes cooking off is just enough for the G9 to make out a black shape closing in fast from starboard; and then the French destroyer rams the German ship on the bows, tangling them up together in a mass of twisted metal.



The enemy destroyer manages to bring two deck guns to bear onto the wrecked G9, firing into her bridge and aft. And then heavy guns boom from the darkness. One shell strikes the G9's torpedo launchers; one of her torpedoes goes off, carving a chunk out of her hull. Another salvo finds the Graf's 'X' Turret and penetrates it, killing the crew.

But then the Germans fire back. The capitals train their main batteries onto a closing Epee-class destroyer and nail her with five 12-inch shells, turning her into matchwood. The Lützow, meanwhile, peppers a nearby French light cruiser with her secondaries.

The cruiser turns to avoid the German fire; and runs straight into a torpedo fired into the melee by the G7.



The G9 is a charnelhouse, by now, but she still has a torpedo launcher and the enemy battlecruiser is nearby. The Germans desperately turn the launcher around, under constant fire, and dump a spread directly into the Frenchman's path, from less than a kilometre away.

One torpedo finds her mark.



But the French destroyer that has rammed the G9 returns the favour. She has a broadside shot at Lützow and she takes it, nailing the German Schlachtkreuzer with a torpedo amidships.

At this point, the S15 has eyes on both the enemy ships. One is a Tourville, running towards the east. The other, the one G9 has torpedoed, is...



...a Guedon-class?

Holy ****, that's a 14-inch gun, 40k-ton behemoth, and the flagship of the French fleet!

The Graf Spee immediately takes her under fire, pumping two 12-inch shells into her belt.



The S15, mangled by French secondary fire, turns and launches her fish. From a range of 1.5k yards, she scores a single hit, further holing the Guedon's starboard waterline.

Meanwhile, the Graf has found the range. With all that this implies. I don't think I need to elaborate. You all know what happens when a Zähringen-class straddles a target at under 5k yards.





The Lützow is hurt, but not mortally. She is flooding, and her port wing magazine is gone, but she can still do her cruise speed and she can still bring eight 12-inchers to bear. Problem is, she cannot see anything to shoot at - and signals this to the Graf Spee.

The Graf proceeds to torpedobeat like a baws [look at the top of the message log], weaving between three French torpedoes, and charges down the French ships.



The Guedon turns to disengage, but the Graf is right on her tail, continuously pumping 12-inch shells into her weakly armored aft. Finally, the Lützow acquires a target, and opens up with main and secondary guns.



As the G7 and S15 slip beneath the waves, the Graf keeps up the withering fire on the Guedon. **** the Tourville - get the French supercap!



And they do get her. At 00:37, the flagship of the French Navy slips under the waves.



It is then - and only then - that the G9 follows suit. It is almost as if she wanted to make sure that her prey had met her doom, before giving up the ghost.

The Germans pick up their survivors (and many French prisoners) and begin their journey to Gibraltar: there is no way they're braving the Channel and the French submarine patrols.



What a victory! The French flagship is gone, accompanied by two destroyers. Somehow that cruiser survives the torpedo strike with minimal damage. The Germans 'only' lose three Zerstörer, and the little darlings certainly went down swinging!



MVP? The Graf, beyond any doubt. Fifty confirmed hits on the enemy ships in total. Surprisingly, French records indicate that the Guedon was hit more than a hundred and thirty times by capital-grade weapons. Whether this was the French panicking and miscounting, or whether this meant that the Germans scored more hits than they could confirm in the gloom is debatable; we suspect that the truth lies somewhere in between...







What a victory, indeed! It takes time for the reports to reach the Admiralität, but when they do, the mood is jubilant. Several Iron Crosses are awarded for this night's work; including to the entire crew of the G9 for their tenacity and valor under fire.



This success breathes new life into the German Fleet - the captains, officers and crewmen are determined not to give the French an inch anymore. The little obsolete Nymphe, patrolling the Indian Ocean, engages the enemy cruiser Lelande as she tries to attack merchant shipping and drives her away, under a hail of 6-inch fire; the Moltke and Prinz Adalbert twice drive away the raider Galilee from German waters.



That's the last straw for the French. They have completely and utterly lost control of the seas; the Germans can, at their discretion, land troops in their northern coast, completely bypassing Belgium and the Netherlands. On the 29th of April, they sue for peace, a peace that the Kaiser outright orders von Papen to grant them. Germany is at a perfect position to dictate terms and to ensure that she emerges the undisputed ruler of the Kerneuropa...



What the utter ****?

...

"Large territories and considerable war reparations" = 4 victory points.

...

...

VON PAPEEEEEEEN!


« Last Edit: May 31, 2018, 10:02:48 am by Enioch »
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**** OFF HERR REICHSKANZLER.

YOU TEST MY PATIENCE.
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Von Papen. My dude. Come 'ere for a sec. Listen, we beat the french soundly. We can have everything we want or we put troops into Versaille again, and this time they're not leaving. Get us something juicy, will ya?

----

Mein Kaiser, I have delivered something juicy! The french have offered us their best wines!
Let there be light
Let there be moon
Let there be stars and let there be you
Let there be monsters and let there be pain
Let us begin to feel again
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FOUR POINTS?!?


FOUR MEASLY POINTS?!

Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

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All of that research though, the best science in the world. And what a delicious slugging fest, the war ended with. (I liked how it the collision was with UNSIGHTED!!!)

Du Chayla Du du du chayla
Cha la
Head cha la
Du du du

Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
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*snip*

Yeah, I kinda was expecting that reaction.  :lol:

Von Papen. My dude. Come 'ere for a sec. Listen, we beat the french soundly. We can have everything we want or we put troops into Versaille again, and this time they're not leaving. Get us something juicy, will ya?

----

Mein Kaiser, I have delivered something juicy! The french have offered us their best wines!

...and that one.  :p

Seriously, this was possibly the peace deal that pissed me off more than any other in this playthrough. Apparently, 50k+ VP compared to 7.5k (plus having completely wiped the battle-line of the Marine Nationale from the face of the Earth) only grants you 4 negotiation points.

EDIT: OK, this is pissing me off. I wanna download .gifs from giphy and I can't do it, again. I choose my .gif, then I click 'Download' from the sidebar on the right, then I right click on the blue 'download' button on the source link and I select 'save link as'. All I'm getting is a ****ing 29KB file that doesn't play anywhere and is probably not a .gif, but this ****ing frame that giphy likes to put on everything. Can someone help me with this ****ing ^*%@  (devolves into really angry swearing)
« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 04:55:38 am by Enioch »
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Save link as?
Try, Save Image As

U derpy git
Urutorahappī!!

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He's been channeling the Kaiser so much for the RTW Blog its metastasizing to other parts of his life...

“Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world”

 

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He's been channeling the Kaiser so much for the RTW Blog its metastasizing to other parts of his life...


Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> critically wrong
[02:42] <@Axem> im happy with these missions now
[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

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Uh-huh. Yeah.  :doubt:

Instruct me as to where the 'Save Image as' option is, great masters.





EDIT: hold on, I may have figured this out. That's an MP4, isn't it. And I've been trying to download it as a .gif because the frame has wrapped it into a "giphy.gif" container.... :banghead:
« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 12:29:58 pm by Enioch »
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EDIT: hold on, I may have figured this out. That's an MP4, isn't it. And I've been trying to download it as a .gif because the frame has wrapped it into a "giphy.gif" container.... :banghead:
I'm just going to sit here, and watch it all dawn on you  :p

« Last Edit: November 07, 2017, 02:14:57 pm by Spoon »
Urutorahappī!!

[02:42] <@Axem> spoon somethings wrong
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[02:44] <@Axem> well
[02:44] <@Axem> with 2 of them

 

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Not directly related to the german steel of the current playthrough, but these are pretty colorized pictures of WW2 warboats: https://www.reddit.com/r/WorldOfWarships/comments/7biryd/imperial_japanese_navy_in_color/
Urutorahappī!!

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And a thousand pikes were flashing by the rising of the moon!






"The Geneva peace negotiations were a shambles. Von Papen  came in completely unprepared, apparently more interested in humiliating the French than concluding a lasting peace treaty. To the chagrin of all parties involved, the Reichskanzler was more interested in backstage lobbying, to 'get a better deal' than to actually putting forward what Germany expected out of this peace treaty.

"It was only thanks to the tireless efforts of Foreign Minister Streseman that a set of concessions were agreed upon. Under international pressure, the Germans would limit themselves to accepting considerable war reparations and some minimal colonial concessions; but the European borders returned to their pre-war state and no signficant colonial centres changed hands.

"The military and hawkish sides were incensed. The Army had performed heroically, once more demonstrating German superiority over the French; the Navy had, by all accounts, carried the day. But this political fiasco was perceived by all as a betrayal of the sacrifices of the military personnel: thousands of Germans had died at sea or on the trenches, and their deaths were now proven to be in vain. This was exacerbated by the fact that the current military command had reached their positions under the drastically different hand of von Mecklenburg. Whereas the
Meereskanzler had made it a point to only spend German lives sparingly, in pursuit of specific goals, von Papen appeared to the disillusioned Heeresleitung and Admiralität as an opportunist.

"General Ludendorff was one of the first to put forward what would quickly become known as the 'Dolchstoß' narrative, which quickly spread amongst the German military and the lower classes: the military was betrayed, 'stabbed in the back', by the political leadership and, specifically, the short-sighted von Papen regime and its backers among the nobility [...]
"

-Dr. Jonathan Needham, The Dolchstoß: Political Betrayal in Germany during and after the Von Papen Wars, 1975: Glasgow.



The military is not happy. The Kaiser is not happy. Streseman is appalled.

Von Papen and his backers seem happy. For the time being. He is still kept as far away from the American delegates who are visiting Germany to witness the peace negotiations as possible.



A new batch of submarines leave the yards, too late to join the war.



Well, crap. That would have been really appreciated.



August 1921: and a German agent and saboteur is captured in Italy. He has, in his possession, evidence that, while insufficient to link him directly to Von Papen, is still...shall we say indicative of the Chancellor's interest in his activities? The Italians raise a very justified stink; von Papen insultingly dismisses their claims in a series of interviews with European newspapers.

Military Intelligence are pulling their hair out.  This has not been a government-sanctioned operation. Whatever von Papen has done, it was done with private funds (which might explain the sheer incompetence of the captured agent).





Ohohoho...

ENIGMA INTENSIFIES.



September: and von Papen ****s things up again, when he orders the Far East squadron to bombard targets in coastal China, based on faulty intelligence. Thankfully, the local commanders are well aware that the 'revolution' their Reichskanzler is sending them to suppress is well under control by British colonial forces and that their intervention could spark another war. They dither, and sail around, and take extra care not to bombard anything important. The Brits protest formally against what they perceive as Germany grossly overstepping her bounds; but Streseman can provide sufficient damage control that tensions do not rise too much...



Things stay quiet until January. Perhaps too quiet, for both the Admiralität's and Streseman's peace of mind.

And then, a British spy is discovered by Military Intelligence. The Admiralität and Streseman immediately descend upon the poor fellow in an attempt for damage control; the matter is dealt with with the uttermost discretion, keeping von Papen out of the loop. This time, tensions stay stable.



Aha.

Ahahahaha.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....

SUPER-ULTRA-BIG BEER BELLY FOR BATTLESHIPS UNLOCKED!

SEND MORE TORPEDOES.



**** you 'Murica, we need the money. We are modernising the entirety of the Pieper fleet, after all...



Krupp approaches the government with a proposal. They are considering outsourcing some of their production to Russia, where labour is cheaper. This might help relations with the ailing eastern neighbour; and it would also bring considerable profits to both Krupp and the Admiralität for the licenses held.

But no! cries von Papen. That would be a security risk! Germany cannot afford to leak technology to her backwards ernstwhile enemy!

The project is blocked. Neither the German industrialists nor the Russians appreciate it.



Sure, give the new Hertha good eyes.





****ING HELL, VON PAPEN, CEASE AND DESIST.

He does it again. Once again, Military Intelligence finds out there are German agents and saboteurs in France after these men are caught. Frau Zelle is thumping her head against the wall.

The utter hypocrisy of the man! Denying German industrialists a billion-Mark deal, only to get his incompetent stooges captured by the French as they are trying to dynamite the Paris - Lille railroad tracks...

We need some good news-





Gottverdammt, R & D, but you never cease to amaze. Can we have our new Zerstörer yet?

Not yet? OK, we'll wait. They had better be amazing, though!



Wait. The Japanese want to buy German boiler licenses? They come to Germany and not the Brits?

Holy crap, tensions with them are really low! This is a chance!

**** von Papen. The military and Streseman work under the Reichskanzler's radar. There is a masterful mess of bureaucratic shuffling and delays, until von Papen is presented with a fait accompli, the Japanese envoys are on a ship back home with the desired boiler designs, and several million Reichsmark have found their way into the Ministry of War's coffers.



Let's make this absolutely clear.

You're welcome in the Fleet. More than welcome, actually. But you are not HER. You will never be HER.





The Admiralität appreciates the money.

BUT SPENDING THAT MONEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN NECESSARY IF YOU HADN'T TRIED TO BLOW UP THE FRENCH RAILROADS HALF A YEAR AFTER OUR PEACE TREATY YOU UTTER FUUUUUuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhh.......

Argle.



YES. We're not fighting the Americans anytime soon.



NO. You never know with the Brits.

(And with von Papen being in charge...)





Perfect!



Also perfect! Hey, R & D, can we have our new Zerst-





This is a new-generation ship. This is the work of love of many, many engineers, over several years. It is tested; it is perfect; it is everything the Admiralität has hoped for and then some.

The project is named G9, after the glorious little destroyer that died fighting to the last breath. She has more than earned her right to be immortalised. The new G9 will have the Iron Cross awarded to her predecessor permanently mounted on her hull, in a further gesture of respect for the spirits and bravery of the fallen.

Let's run the reader through what made the G9-class so magnificent:

1.5ktons, as big as Zerstörer come. A 19KHP engine, tuned for high-performance, capable of pushing the ship at a relatively stately pace of 33 knots, a speed that is satisfactory but by no means exceptional. Heavy ASW and minelaying capabilities, with double mine racks mounted at the rear.

And, more significantly: Six guns, mounted in a ABY configuration, with 'B' Turret being superfiring. Six 152mm guns. That means six-inchers, for the Imperial plebes. Guided by a Fire Director system.

In brief? Each of the G9-class destroyers mounted the same broadside as the Frauenlob or the Bremen, and had a better fire control suite.

Add to that six torpedoes in two triple launchers, and the G9s suddenly become little terrors, capable of going toe-to-toe with light cruisers, let alone enemy destroyers. They are still tin cans, of course (putting armor on a DD is a losing proposition), but their bite is deadly. And if they have tosacrifice some rate of fire on those 6-inchers, that's fine.

5 ships are laid down in early January.



February: and Elsass completes her shakedown cruise. Too late to participate in the war, unfortunately!

The keen reader will also observe the submarine production going on in the background.



March: and R & D submits designs for a new, multilayered underwater torpedo defense system. Yes, triple-bottoms are a good idea, especially after the spanking the French submarines gave us during the war. Galster eagerly approves the designs.

The eagle-eyed reader will also observe that the U-1, the first German submarine ever built is still operational.



April: hmm. Interesting. The idea of putting the armored belt inside the ship meshes well with the All-or-Nothing principle, allowing for a lighter citadel 'box'; but internal armor is difficult to access and repair. The Germans will need to experiment.

Also, turtleback.





Well. That could have been more useful before we finalised the G9 designs. Still appreciated; well done R & D!



FINALLY! Yes, by all means, make our U-Boote even better. Better pressure hulls: greater diving depths. Let's start making submarines and not submersibles, eh?







A nice technology exchange with the Spaghettis, there. Always good to promote collaboration between nations!



YES! Next stop: OTL USA superheavy ammunition!



WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH YOU, VON PAPEN?

Analysts all agree that Russia is no threat. They can barely support their population, let alone maintain a competent navy. Germany could slash her defense budget by half, and Russia would still be no threat.

And yet, with France and Russia almost ready to declare a two-front war, von Papen allows this golden opportunity for peace to pass him by.



I...

OK. 16-inchers in 1921 is delicious. But their performance is abysmal.

No. Our 15-inchers are tested, reliable, and lighter. We'll stick with them, for now.





Well, to anyone politically savvy enough (like Streseman) this was... expected.

Since her defeat, Great Britain had been dancing on a thin line between traditional monarchy, socialism, and absolutist right-wing parties. The latter had been on the rise, with regional nationalist 'spikes' taking place in traditionally 'oppressed' regions.

On July 1923, Ireland erupts in open rebellion against the Crown, seeking independence. The Troubles have begun: a bloody civil war, with separatists scoring considerable early successes versus the English forces sent to suppress the revolt.

It is a sobering event for all monarchies in Europe.



WHAT THE **** IS WRONG WITH-?

OK. OK, you know what? I won't even bother, anymore.



THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS, YOU UTTER-

*Deep breath*



Oh God, yes. We needed that. Now our ships can turn and evade; and their guns will reliably stay on target!








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Does that event change in any way at all thanks to your meddling or do we get a full re-enactment of The Wind that shakes the Barley
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Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
ALL ALONG THAT SINGING RIVER, THAT BLACK MASS OF MEN WAS SEEN,
HIGH ABOVE THEIR SHINING WEAPONS FLEW THEIR OWN BELOVED GREEN:
“DEATH TO EVERY FOE AND TRAITOR, WHISTLE OUT THE MARCHING TUNE,
AND HOORAH ME BOYS FOR FREEDOM, 'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON!
'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON, 'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON,
AND HOORAH ME BOYS FOR FREEDOM 'TIS THE RISING OF THE MOON!”


EDIT: Holy crap, Joshua, you read / write fast.

The event has changed already. For one thing, it happened decades before OTL, during a period when England was going through her own Weimar Republic phase. But a Civil War does follow, and she's a whopper.

Especially since the Brits don't have the resources to fully supply the IFS as they did OTL; and the IRA split goes the other way. Ireland is out of the Commonwealth.
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Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
So I'm going to assume that the next light cruiser class is basically going to be an Atlanta?
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So I'm going to assume that the next light cruiser class is basically going to be an Atlanta?

What is this 'light cruiser' thing that you talk about?
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Re: Enioch's naval shenanigans - RTW as Germany - [Image Heavy!]
Right.

Sorry.

Heavy Destroyer, I meant to say.
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