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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on January 10, 2008, 05:02:25 pm
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2009 Cadillac CTS-V.
Some highlights:
- 550HP, 550ft/lbs torque
- 6.2L supercharged V8 (LSA)
- Fastest reacting suspension in the world (magnetic)
- microfiber material added to steering wheel, seats and shifter, to help support high-performance driving (moisture resistant)
- 6 piston calipers in the front, 4 piston in the back
(http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/2009/2009-cadillac-cts-v-4.jpg)
(http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/2009/2009-cadillac-cts-v-3.jpg)
(http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/2009/2009-cadillac-cts-v-8.jpg)
(http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/2009/2009-cadillac-cts-v-14.jpg)
(http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/2009/2009-cadillac-cts-v-20.jpg)
more information here:
http://www.cadillacfaq.com/gi/09v.html
they just announced the official specs of the car earlier this week... going to be awesome!
...coming later this year :)
...you may feel free to post either:
a) cheap ricers
or
b) expensive exotics
because i know one of those two are going to happen.
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Cheers but I think I'll go with this... ;)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i84/Kalfireth/carexchange.jpg)
Seriously though, nice car mate - have fun!
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;) lol
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Very nice looking car!
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One of my dad's friends has a CTS-V. He let my dad do a burnout with winter tires. My dad told me that he was burning rubber through all of first gear, with a bark into second. Dang man, it's like a luxury Viper, only a little slower.
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550hp :eek2:
0 to 60 in what, 6 seconds. I don`t know, i could get in a lot of trouble with that kind of power. People at work call me leadfoot now as it is. :nervous:
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Beautiful car! Easily the best Buick yet...Buick seems to be on a roll right now with this and the Enclave. Very good to see!
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550hp :eek2:
0 to 60 in what, 6 seconds. I don`t know, i could get in a lot of trouble with that kind of power. People at work call me leadfoot now as it is. :nervous:
0-60 in 4.6 seconds actually. and that's in mine... the OLDER model CTS-V.
i'm going to assume this one is just as fast, if not a few tenths of a second faster! ;)
and yeah, if i shift right, i'll burn rubber all through 1st gear, squeal into 2nd, and chirp into 3rd :)
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Beautiful car! Easily the best Buick yet...Buick seems to be on a roll right now with this and the Enclave. Very good to see!
Buick? :( :( :( :( :(
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Interesting how the gas costs rise and rise and rise but American people STILL tend to buy cars with high fuel needs.
I guess either you have a sports car, a truck or a 4x4, either you will be laughed at.
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... but American people STILL tend to buy cars with high fuel needs.
right.....wtf needs a 6.2 l supercharged engine?!
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Looks nice:)
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my 2l peugeot 407 AT serves me well and i use a whole tank of fuel per month :)
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Public transportation, bikes and feet ftw.
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Don't (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/review.aspx?model=1507) tempt (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/Review.aspx?model=1356) fate. (http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/Review.aspx?model=1486)
You asked. ;)
Nice car though mate, wouldn't mind one myself. Although I don't know enough about the US market to compare it to the CTS-V available here. Mind if I ask what the sticker price is?
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sticker price on this hasn't been released yet. on Jan. 14th i'll be attending a Q&A with GM engineers, designers, etc. so i intend to ask what the expected price will be. i'm guessing at least $65,000, since the 04-07 CTS-Vs were $52,000+ sticker price
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Interesting how the gas costs rise and rise and rise but American people STILL tend to buy cars with high fuel needs.
I guess either you have a sports car, a truck or a 4x4, either you will be laughed at.
Yeah pretty much. I remember one time I met one of my dad's friends and one of the first questions he asked me was "where's your rig?" and was totally stunned when I told him I didn't own a car or a truck.
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i stick to two wheels ;)
(http://www.geusemer.de/ns_071007/ns_071007_26.jpg)
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hello car.
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Me likes the interior photo. :) :yes:
Though I won't expect to see a car like that roam the streets here; even if it does, it'll most likely be owned by some wealthy person who doesn't know where to throw his/her money at... someone who could buy a new F430 every week or something.
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Sexy.
Mewants (http://www.parkparadigm.com/images/SMP/2006-Dodge-Challenger-Concept-SA-Top-1024x768.jpg).
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Stealth, is like your third car in one year?
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Public transportation, bikes and feet ftw.
Which is great if you live somewhere where there is decent public transit, you can ride a bike year-round, or your place of work is located somewhere near a settlement =)
I HAVE to drive; but I do choose to drive a car, so it's not all bad.
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Stealth, is like your third car in one year?
ummmmm. maybe. but i'm not getting it yet. it only comes out in september
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Stealth, forgive me for asking...But what do you do that lets you make that much money to spend on that nice of a car?!? :nervous:
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Beautiful car! Easily the best Buick yet...Buick seems to be on a roll right now with this and the Enclave. Very good to see!
Buick? :( :( :( :( :(
Err...where the hell is my brain! Cadillac...geeze....been a long week...
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hah - good catch IceFire ;)
Tyrian - i work in IT.
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Where exactly in IT? (I'm looking at changing college majors...)
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i run an IT department, but i kind of wear all kinds of hats... from database administration, hardware, software, networking...
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nice looking car indeed, say hello to it from me
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i run an IT department, but i kind of wear all kinds of hats... from database administration, hardware, software, networking...
All kind of hats? Like a Fedora? BOOM BOOM
...
I'll get ma coat.
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...you may feel free to post either:
a) cheap ricers
or
b) expensive exotics
because i know one of those two are going to happen.
Well if you insist
say hello to the Bristol Fighter T one of britains best muscle cars
Twin turbocharged and intercooled 8 litre V10 engine
1012 bhp at 5600 rpm
1036 lb.ft of torque at 4500 rpm
unfortunately they have limited the car to only 225mph instead of the 270mph its capable of :(
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4782/bistolca8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Sorry, nothing like American muscle:
Corvette Z06
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Chevrolet-Corvette-C6-convertible.jpg/800px-Chevrolet-Corvette-C6-convertible.jpg)
7.0 Liter LS7 V8 Engine
505 hp at, I think, 6000 rpm (red-line at 6500 rpm ;7)
0 - 60 mph in 3.7 seconds
and weighs in at only 3132 pounds.
or, if you prefer MOPAR:
the 3 x 500 beast, the
Dodge Viper
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Dodge-Viper-SRT10.jpg/800px-Dodge-Viper-SRT10.jpg)
8.4 Liter V10
600 bhp @ 6000 rpm
560 ft·lbf @ 5600 rpm
0 - 60 in 3.9 sec
top speed is 195 mph (314 km/h)
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(red-line at 6500 rpm )
:lol:
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Sorry, nothing like American muscle:
I know its far far better
it accellerates quicker
its 75 mph faster
it has twice the horsepower
and twice the torque
plus it has gull wing doors which makes it twice as cool
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1331/bristolfighter2zb2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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lol spartan :lol:
if you really want to drive a REAL car, try this:
(http://www.gemballausa.com/images/CarreraGT/CarreraGT_sz_b_2.jpg)
i´ve met a GT two or three times on the track (nordschleife) and can tell you.....THIS sound, speed, control, etc.....is just not from this world!
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Did someone say real muscle cars?
(http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/lvsaac/Prohidney_Boss_302_800.jpg)
:p
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lol.....agreed........muscle, yes.....but car :confused:
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lol.....agreed........muscle, yes.....but car :confused:
Yarly, morel like a rocket on wheels.
lol spartan :lol:
if you really want to drive a REAL car, try this:
(http://www.gemballausa.com/images/CarreraGT/CarreraGT_sz_b_2.jpg)
i´ve met a GT two or three times on the track (nordschleife) and can tell you.....THIS sound, speed, control, etc.....is just not from this world!
How about German muscle:
Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ea/Mercedes-Benz_CLK-GTR_AMG.jpg/800px-Mercedes-Benz_CLK-GTR_AMG.jpg)
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I have one of these setup for me (once I have a home, garage, and funds to keep)...
http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/files/147500/147658.html
1956 Cadillac DeVille Sedan in black... completely original
It'll be mine eventually... within the next decade or two, eh?
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Nice. Though I prefer the look of the Bel-Air from the same year:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Chevrolet_Bel_Air_500px.jpg)
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please never compare a Bel-Air to a Cadillac ;)
Davros: You're a prime example of what i was referring to in my first post ;)
See the difference between the car you've posted and the Z06/Viper, is that I could (and very well may choose to) own either of those cars. They're actually affordable compared to the Fighter T.
So yes. faster, 75mph faster top speed, blah blah....
...but 7 times the price tag...
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hey i only posted it because you commanded me ;)
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Did someone say real muscle cars?
(http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/lvsaac/Prohidney_Boss_302_800.jpg)
:p
I... must... NOT RESIST POSTING!!!!
The other car I'd like to get... 30 years younger than the '56 Caddy and also in black.
'86 Buick Grand National
(http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/buick-grandnational/images/buick-grandnational-1986a.jpg)
Again not mine yet and not my picture either. I'll try to buy one off of my Uncle though he says he won't sell. Still, 0-60 in 5 seconds and a total of 5,512 built (not including the 117 LaSabre Grand Nationals).
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Yarr! British Beef!
(http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/images/cotm200506_04.jpg)
I fancy my next motor to be a SilEighty Rep:
(http://www.japaneseusedcar.ca/img/1990RS13Sileighty01_01.jpg)
I don't like new cars. Too complicated for my tastes.
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God... stop. posting. ricers. please...
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I only posted one picture :(
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I only posted one picture :(
Actually you posted two.
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my god that buick is one ugly car
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Yarr! British Beef!
(http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/images/cotm200506_04.jpg)
Is that an SD1?
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God... stop. posting. ricers. please...
I seem to recall defending you from someone who made a comment about your choice in cars :p
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I only posted one picture :(
Actually you posted two.
Well one "ricer". :rolleyes: Whatever the hell that is. My picture was of an affordable, tasteful Japanese Coupe.
Yarr! British Beef!
(http://www.austin-rover.co.uk/images/cotm200506_04.jpg)
Is that an SD1?
Yup. Sd1 Twin Plenum to be exact.
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car driving is still boring.....drive THIS:
(http://www.thunderaceclub.de/files/10.22._dalelomas_web_193.jpg)
okay.....these both could be an alternative ;)
(http://img6.myimg.de/8B3E0C904E7211DCBF86FEA94D87b813.jpg)
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I'd rather be doing this
(http://c.wrzuta.pl/wm4078/3d2f5fad0029cfa6467666b5/Maciej%20Polody%20rulezz?type=i&key=2f0DWXGxd3&ft=d)
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trust me, roanoke... you can drift just fine in a cts-v... look it up on youtube ;)
Also, i don't know if i mentioned, but the new CTS-V is the quickest 4 door car... wait for it.... in the world
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trust me, roanoke... you can drift just fine in a cts-v... look it up on youtube ;)
Also, i don't know if i mentioned, but the new CTS-V is the quickest 4 door car... wait for it.... in the world
well if you did mention it you'd be lying :eek2:
quote from here : http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/topspeed.html
"What is the top speed of a stock CTS-V?
The maximum allowed speed before fuel is shutoff is 175 mph.
If the PCM detects possible oil starvation, it will limit the top speed to 168 mph"
(http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8783/dd2ib3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7673/bentleyyp8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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Isn't that the same w12 they put in the VW Phaeton?
Edit: Yeah it is.
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I have a problem with these super saloons (such as M5s, RS8s etc not just the Cadalliac). They're cool and everything but they'll always be a compromise.
They're not super cars because they don't have the drama, exotica or puriety of design of a thoroughbred supercar (like a Mclaren F1, Zonda, Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche etc).
They also fail as a daily commute, comfy-sofa, pratical driver due to the agressive suspension, wheels, engine etc.
They're neither one thing nor the other.
So what are they for ?
If I had loads of money to get a car I'd buy something simple and inconspicious (like a Ford Focus) to get around in and buy something totally lunatic (like I dunno, a Lotus Exige?) for track days, high-days and holidays.
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well if you did mention it you'd be lying :eek2:
quote from here : http://www.cadillacfaq.com/faq/answers/topspeed.html
"What is the top speed of a stock CTS-V?
The maximum allowed speed before fuel is shutoff is 175 mph.
If the PCM detects possible oil starvation, it will limit the top speed to 168 mph"
note that i said the "NEW" cts-v. you're quoting something (on cadillacfaq.com, a site made by one of my friends) talking about the 2004 cts-v... quite outdated.
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originally posted by Edmunds
We believe it to be the fastest four-door sedan in the world.
Wow. We chatted after the conference with a GM guy we know and said, "You know an M5 will do the quarter in 12.7 seconds, right? And an S65 AMG will do it in 12.6, right?"
"Yup," he said. "We're faster."
i'd believe it. cadillac hasn't ever said anything regarding the CTS-V that wasn't true.
they said it would beat the M3, it did.
they said it would handle like a european sports car, it did.
they said it would cost less than its competitors, and it did, by about $30,000
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I see the CTS is going to have a coupe variant soon as well!
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080114.009/cadillac-cts-coupe-concept-unveiled-at-naias
Shiny!
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If I had loads of money to get a car I'd buy something simple and inconspicious (like a Ford Focus) to get around in and buy something totally lunatic (like I dunno, a Lotus Exige?) for track days, high-days and holidays.
I'm a bit pissy with Ford re the focus. They've not shipped enough XR-5s (Turbocharged sporty version of the standard hatch, supposed to be as good or better than the tricked out VW i.e. probably the best hot hatch in Australia, certainly on value-for-money terms) to Australia, so there's a waiting list, and by the time one comes available for me o buy, I'll probably be back at Uni earning crap money again and unable to afford it. It's the first car to tempt me away from the XR-6 Turbo since... ever and I can't friggen get one. Bastards.
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Is that the same as the Focus ST?
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Google says yes, but it's the newer one (i.e. not the 170), with 2.5L 5 cyl turbocharged engine.
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Google says yes, but it's the newer one (i.e. not the 170), with 2.5L 5 cyl turbocharged engine.
Yeah that would be the current ST.
(http://www.motorintro.com/actuales/_images/ford_images/focus%20st/focus_st_4.jpg)
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well the speedo on the 2007 cts-v only goes upto 180 so i doubt it will do 195
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lol for the second time buddy... note what i said... i'm not referring to the 04-07 CTS-V. i'm referring to the 09 CTS-V. TOTALLY different animal. different body, chassis, suspension, brakes, engine, and yes... speedometer :rolleyes:
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so you won't actually get it for another year then ?
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Hello new car. Ahahahah. Lol sorry :)
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Again: Why do your cars ABSOLUTELY need to consume as much fuel as possible and have ridiculously powerful engines you'll probably never need?
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Again: Why do your cars ABSOLUTELY need to consume as much fuel as possible and have ridiculously powerful engines you'll probably never need?
QFT. I've never understood these gas guzzling penis replacements. For me, if a car has four wheels, goes forward and backward, turns and is economical, I'm more than happy. And since I usually drive in the city, when I actually even drive, I really have no need for a car that accelerates to 100km/h in two seconds and has a top speed of 280km/h or something along those lines.
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Again: Why do your cars ABSOLUTELY need to consume as much fuel as possible and have ridiculously powerful engines you'll probably never need?
QFT. I've never understood these gas guzzling penis replacements. For me, if a car has four wheels, goes forward and backward, turns and is economical, I'm more than happy. And since I usually drive in the city, when I actually even drive, I really have no need for a car that accelerates to 100km/h in two seconds and has a top speed of 280km/h or something along those lines.
Re-QFT. Sorry for spamming.
That had to be.
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so you won't actually get it for another year then ?
well it was just released 2 weeks ago... it comes out in september.
so about 6 or 7 months :)
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Again: Why do your cars ABSOLUTELY need to consume as much fuel as possible and have ridiculously powerful engines you'll probably never need?
why not ;)
i mean. why do you need a car... you could use a bicycle...
so why not have a car that accelerates insanely quick, and yet still gets 26MPG on the highwaY :)
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Again: Why do your cars ABSOLUTELY need to consume as much fuel as possible and have ridiculously powerful engines you'll probably never need?
why not ;)
i mean. why do you need a car... you could use a bicycle...
so why not have a car that accelerates insanely quick, and yet still gets 26MPG on the highwaY :)
But you don't need a car that goes that fast or accelerates that fast either.
You not going to use it unless you do street racing.
Really unneeded.
I agree Lobo with your whole statement.
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Again: Why do your cars ABSOLUTELY need to consume as much fuel as possible and have ridiculously powerful engines you'll probably never need?
QFT. I've never understood these gas guzzling penis replacements. For me, if a car has four wheels, goes forward and backward, turns and is economical, I'm more than happy. And since I usually drive in the city, when I actually even drive, I really have no need for a car that accelerates to 100km/h in two seconds and has a top speed of 280km/h or something along those lines.
Then the Cadillac CTS-V isn't for you. What you want is more akin to what a car like the Corolla is well known for and for the vast majority of people thats perfect. A point A to B car that does the job without too much fuss. For some people they want something a little different and thus a car that has a fair bit of power is what does it for them.
Personally I'm more in your camp...partly by necessity but that doesn't downplay the fact that other people want to have things a little differently. The oil is going to run out one way or another and the 1% of exotics and maybe 5% of high performance vehicles aren't going to make a huge difference. In the future those people will need to be buying, like everyone else, something that runs on an alternative fuel....but they will still opt for the more powerful one :)
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well said IceFire...
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Hm....car...
I got to get me a drivers license...it's a bit low on my to-do lsit, as you can see:
TM's to-do list (http://www.kerberos-productions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=141717#141717)
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Hm....car...
I got to get me a drivers license...it's a bit low on my to-do lsit, as you can see:
TM's to-do list (http://www.kerberos-productions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=141717#141717)
I'd say its a bit of a handy skill to have now and again :)
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lol for the second time buddy... note what i said... i'm not referring to the 04-07 CTS-V. i'm referring to the 09 CTS-V. TOTALLY different animal. different body, chassis, suspension, brakes, engine, and yes... speedometer :rolleyes:
"So despite a kerb weight the wrong side of 1800kg, the hot Cadillac
should claw its way to 60mph in five seconds or less, rocketing on to
an estimated 175mph top speed."
your right its about 10mph faster i forgive you :D
of course that quote may have the speed wrong
but 50mph wrong ? i really cant see it doing over 227.25mph (the speed it has to beat)
but on the other hand cadillac dont lie so i eagerly await the 227.26mph (at least) 2009 cts-v the fastest 4 door in the world :D
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wow you really did your research. 2 weeks ago no one even knew what engine the 2009 CTS-V is going to have.
my car can do 163 mph bone stock before it tops out.
and no, cadillac doesn't lie. we already know it's got better 1/4 mile times than the E63 AMG and the M5...
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its going to have the same engine as the 2009 vettte isnt it
and they are only claiming 200mph for it plus i assume the vette is a lot lighter
ps:
bentley may be releasing a veyron w16 powered arnage
you seriously think the 2009 cts-v is going to top 230 mph!!!
your an optomistic bugger i'll give you that :D
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no, i doubt the 2009V will top 200mph...
but i guarantee you... 1/4 mile, 1 mile, etc. i've got no doubt it will beat the bentley (which, by the way, doesn't do 230mph either... i have yet to hear of a 4 door car, unmodified, that will top 200...) ;)
as it is, the 04-07 CTS-V, when released, beat 99.999% of 4 door cars... it was only AFTER it was released that the Mercedes S63AMG, Lexus ISF, Audi's A8 and other, Charger SRT-8, BMW'S M5, etc. were released that could beat it. And even then, there aren't many that can beat it by much.
Now redesign that concept, give it 150HP more, supercharge it, and upgrade its shocks, brakes, etc. and yeah... i have no room to believe it won't beat any and all of the above cars badly. :)
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Still, 1800kg is bloody heavy. But then most modern cars are overweight. :doubt:
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I think top speed isn't all that important anyways. Nobody is legally allowed to drive anywhere near the top speed for any car...even a bare bones Honda Civic will easily break the speed limit. Acceleration is where its at...or at least thats what I think from my experiences.
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unless you live in germany
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For normal driving even acceleration isn't a big deal. 0-60 times are irrelevant in the real world as there's noway somone treat a car like that. Not one they had bought with real money anyway. Just so long as it isn't sluggish (when passing obstructions, for example).
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i dunno man... on the highway, when passing people, etc. i'm glad when i can punch the gas and jump from 45 to 75 in 3 or 4 seconds... so yeah. it DOES help
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0-60 times may not mean much in themselves, but what they do tell you is how the car performs whilst accelerating in a real world situation (rather than saying 45-130 times or something random and meaningless like that). They're a concrete standard of numbers that you can compare any car against.
And what that means is "do I have time to get past this lorry on this tiny piece of road, or do I have to sit behind it for ages" - or "that car pulled out without looking and is heading straight for me, can I get out of the way in time?". There are plenty of examples where having a car with good 0-60 performance could save your life. It doesn't necessarily have to be about racing performance (though granted, a lot of people - myself included - have thought of it that way and may continue to do so).
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no you're right Thunder; it DOESN'T have to be about racing performance, but a quarter mile and 0-60 are, you're right, pretty good indicators on how a car's going to perform.
i.e. if a car can do a 1/4 mile in 12 seconds at 145 miles/hour, it definately can pass the lorry ahead, etc. ;)
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You guys have proven my point better than I did. A standing start has little relevance to passing your usual everyday obstacles. That's more to do with mid-range torque and gearing.
Like I said. if I paid my money to buy a car (any car) there's no way inhell I'd let someone do a standing start as required to hit factory 0-60 times. And there's no way you'd let me do it to your car(s). :)
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huh? 0-60 is too a good indicator. if you can do a 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, then if you're cruising at 45mph, and need to accelerate heavily, you can bet money that the car's going to accelerate quick. If a car has a good 0-60, then it more than likely has a good 45-85 too... that's also why they have 0-100 ;)
not understanding your bit about the "not letting you do it to my car" what!?
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You guys have proven my point better than I did. A standing start has little relevance to passing your usual everyday obstacles. That's more to do with mid-range torque and gearing.
Like I said. if I paid my money to buy a car (any car) there's no way inhell I'd let someone do a standing start as required to hit factory 0-60 times. And there's no way you'd let me do it to your car(s). :)
Find me a car with good 0-60 specs that doesn't also have good gearing and mid range torque from the last 10 years? I think it will be hard...not sure if impossible...there's always the chance. But really a performance vehicle is not going to have a problem and will likely easily beat out a more average car. That said...its once again not the point of such a vehicle and wear and tear isn't likely to be as big of a concern either. Although I always think that engines and power trains need a good workout now and again regardless of the car.
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yup. nothing better to clean out carbon deposits than high RPMs at high speed :)
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not understanding your bit about the "not letting you do it to my car" what!?
a full bore standing start isn't not exactly kind on the clutch, transmission, tyres, engine etc
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agreed... particularly the heavier the car. i'm surprised you mentioned everything except the thing that gets hit the hardest in 1/4 miles, or other drag type situations: the differential.
still... why not ;)
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Seeing this thread makes me yearn for a license. :(