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Offline Kamikaze

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on: January 14, 2003, 12:56:59 am
Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers in the preceding generation . . .Learn from science that you must doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman
 

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Reply #1 on: January 14, 2003, 05:22:01 am
Erm... riiight...
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Reply #2 on: January 14, 2003, 05:29:51 am
Religion... bleurgh...
 

Offline Fetty

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Reply #3 on: January 14, 2003, 06:46:00 am
oh them again
 

Offline vyper

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Reply #4 on: January 14, 2003, 06:57:27 am
You think maybe Shivans did this to Carl when he played fs2?

Hmm, bad idea. Um, I find this both disturbing yet difficult to believe. Seeing as I never intend to watch the tripe anyway its not an issue.
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Reply #5 on: January 14, 2003, 12:59:24 pm
Certainly was the worst movie I ever saw. And that Sceintolgy stuff is scary... :nervous:
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Reply #6 on: January 14, 2003, 01:06:08 pm
yeah, definately the top 10 worst movies i've seen.

i don't get all that's being said in that URL you posted... too much to read :( :(

could someone summarize please? :D :D
 

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Reply #7 on: January 14, 2003, 01:39:37 pm
It wasn't really too good. I have to agree. Did you see Time Machine? UURGH! That one was awefull. :ick
 

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Reply #8 on: January 14, 2003, 01:45:32 pm
Ok so, the fact that Battlfield:Earth is based on a book by Ron. L. Hubbard might have something to do with the slight Scientology bent. In fact, it's his depiction of what IS going to happen to the human race without scientology. The guy's a ****ing nutcase.
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Offline Stunaep

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Reply #9 on: January 14, 2003, 01:56:04 pm
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Certainly was the worst movie I ever saw. And that Sceintolgy stuff is scary... :nervous:

the more the shame that it was based on (read: names of some characters were from) an excellent book
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Reply #10 on: January 14, 2003, 02:14:58 pm
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The guy's a ****ing nutcase.
The guy WAS a ****ing nutcase. Died in 1986.
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Offline Ulundel

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Reply #11 on: January 14, 2003, 02:23:06 pm
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It wasn't really too good. I have to agree. Did you see Time Machine? UURGH! That one was awefull. :ick


The movie itself was good but it was waaaay too short.
 

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Reply #12 on: January 14, 2003, 02:42:11 pm
I just can't wait for the Christian fundamentalist propaganda counterstrike.

Now THAT would make a cool-ass SF movie. I can see it now... "Smite Wars".:D
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Reply #13 on: January 14, 2003, 02:56:03 pm
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The guy WAS a ****ing nutcase. Died in 1986.


Is, was, it's all the same to me. The main point was that he was cracked severely in the mental department.

Actually, the people that pay to join the CULT of SCIENTOLOGY are far more cracked than I...um, he, sorry.

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Offline Kamikaze

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Reply #14 on: January 14, 2003, 06:21:05 pm
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Originally posted by Stealth
yeah, definately the top 10 worst movies i've seen.

i don't get all that's being said in that URL you posted... too much to read :( :(

could someone summarize please? :D :D


sure

basically it's saying that Battlefield Earth supposedly has subliminal messages planted in it so it's not distributed anymore, what I'm not sure about is if it's about part 1 or 2 or both.

The subliminal messages are suspected to be scientology stuff as the movie is made by Scientologists (of whom John Travolta is according to sources, one of the actors in the movie).

Additionally if you buy any BFE stuff or send postcards/mail/whatever your info (email/address/name) gets put in a scientology possible recruit database...

scary stuff :blah:
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Offline Stryke 9

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Reply #15 on: January 14, 2003, 06:33:29 pm
I don't know about THAT. Using subliminals to brainwash everyone who watches the movie? That's crazy talk! If anything, the movie made everything clearer- I certainly understand how our genes hold their own memories and we are all telepathic energy beings now. Makes perfect sense. And BFE was so good, I bought 11 copies. Those people who call L. Ron Hubbard a hack are just hereti- er, jealous!
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Reply #16 on: January 14, 2003, 08:56:12 pm
*gets out razorblades and nylon rope*

Stryke...come over here - i have something to show you :devil:
  

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Reply #17 on: January 15, 2003, 01:10:29 pm
[color=66ff00]Actually the book was pretty excellent IMHO.

Where did you get the idea that the book was his depiction of what would happen to the world if scientology didn't exist 01010?
I can't see how the book is about that at all.

Still, all the scientology that's been spawned from it is a little wacky. The guy who I used to work for had a scientologist as a father, weird old man, had absolutely no common sense. Lets hope they recruit more like him :nod:

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Reply #18 on: January 15, 2003, 01:12:57 pm
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[color=66ff00]Actually the book was pretty excellent IMHO.

Where did you get the idea that the book was his depiction of what would happen to the world if scientology didn't exist 01010?
I can't see how the book is about that at all.

Still, all the scientology that's been spawned from it is a little wacky. The guy who I used to work for had a scientologist as a father, weird old man, had absolutely no common sense. Lets hope they recruit more like him :nod:

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I can't really remember where I read it but it was some place. As vague as you like :)
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Offline Martinus

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Reply #19 on: January 15, 2003, 01:28:26 pm
[color=66ff00]Actually there may well be some kind of subliminal messaging in the book but I took it for face value and found that it had some good ideas and some nice twists, the characters were a bit two dimensional but I think he just overdid the whole 'back to our roots' thing and tried to make them look uncomplicated. I guess that you can almost draw any conclusion you can imagine from almost any book.

When LOTR was first published a lot of critics thought Tolkien was talking about the war (axis and allies) but he denied it.
I might be flat out wrong though, perhaps BFE was a vehicle for scientology, I think I missed the subliminal messaging though. :D

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