[Galemp]

Zee ultimate in tactical showdowns! Who deserves to reign as the supreme admiral?!

VS

[Alikchi]

Well, assuming they go mano-a-mano..

Bosch is a tactical Admiral with strategic goals. (He is best at doing things like sneaky evasive maneuvers and defeating larger forces in battle, but it's all part of his Secret Plan.) Thrawn is a strategic Admiral with tactical goals. (He commands from the rear, but his goals are specific - kill Luke Skywalker, destroy this installation, et cetera.)

If you put them in direct confrontation, with each in their own flagship, Bosch has the advantage, being in his element - one on one combat. Thrawn can very well counter some of his moves, but in the end Bosch has the advantage.

The Iceni: Faster, smaller, more powerful anti-cap wise, heavily armored, but with crappy anti-fighter defense. Not equipped with hangar bay.

The ISDII: Slow, large, weaker anti-cap wise (except, maybe, at medium/very close ranges), heavily armored, and with relatively effective anti fighter defense. Hangar bay is loaded with stuff.

That's how it would end up, don't you think? The ISD probably couldn't really hurt the Iceni in a cap versus cap fight, with the Iceni's beams able to hit from long range.. but with hardly any AAAfs or flak, mostly Terran Turrets that could no way hit a TIE and no fighter protection of its own, the Iceni would be battered by TIEs just as badly as the ISD gets smacked by BGreens. It's be a draw.

[Stryke 9]

Funny hat vs. glowing eyes... well, the freaky dude could steal Bosch's hat, thus acquiring the power of both and at the same time incapacitating his opponent, but with the help of a switchblade or sharpened spoon (prison-style) Bosch could do just the reverse and score a critical victory. Assuming the balance of power remains as it is, it'd really be a stalemate.

[Knight Templar]

Bosch was only behind ETAK and knowing pretty much everything the GTVA did as soon as they did or faster. He wasn't really a mastermind/brilliant or anything, at least compared to thrawn, who re-invented villians for Star Wars and brought about tactics and stuff that made for some of the best reading through the whole series of books.

Thrawn

although we didn't get to see much of Bosch really.

EDIT: Well with the poll, The Empire would 0wn the NTF anyday. BGreens don't mean anything against 100 Turbolaser Banks and Tie Bombers. Don't forget, ISD's have shield generators.

[Galemp]

Originally posted by Alikchi
That's how it would end up, don't you think? The ISD probably couldn't really hurt the Iceni in a cap versus cap fight, with the Iceni's beams able to hit from long range.. but with hardly any AAAfs or flak, mostly Terran Turrets that could no way hit a TIE and no fighter protection of its own, the Iceni would be battered by TIEs just as badly as the ISD gets smacked by BGreens. It's be a draw.

I dunno. A few wings of TIE bombers would easily take out those turrets. ISDs, on the other hand, have hundreds of turbolasers and ion cannons. The Iceni would be crippled in a head-on fight.

Bosch's best bets are negotiation, or escape. He managed to feed off the fears and insecurities of the NTF and have piles of warships and their crew defect. The Empire has many of the same vices, and Thrawn is always eager to study his enemy.

Bosch also manages to escape from almost any situation. He'd probably find a way to disable the ISD's tractor beams.

[Lonestar]

Wow learned here. I guess they would have to fight it out for us to see.

[ShadowWolf_IH]

Thrawn would kick the crap out of Bosch.  Thrawn would have have been too smart to end up in a one on one engagement.  remember that the thing about Thrawn is that he was brilliant, ruthless, and knew his own limits.  He played his strengths and knew his weaknesses.  He would have gotten Bosch to commit to a massive engagement and would have used the clone of Jedi Master Jorus C'Boath to coordinate his attacks, the Iceni would have fallen and the NTF would have lost heart, they'd have been destroyed.  Unless the New Republic showed up and then it would have been "enemy of my enemy", what a mistake they would have made.

[Spicious]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
BGreens don't mean anything against 100 Turbolaser Banks and Tie Bombers. Don't forget, ISD's have shield generators.

But don't forget that tie bombers don't have shields and well basically suck. Assult gunboats, missile boats and tie defenders are the way to go.

Thrawn would win.

[Nico]

Originally posted by ShadowWolf_IH
Thrawn would kick the crap out of Bosch.  Thrawn would have have been too smart to end up in a one on one engagement.  remember that the thing about Thrawn is that he was brilliant, ruthless, and knew his own limits.  He played his strengths and knew his weaknesses.  He would have gotten Bosch to commit to a massive engagement and would have used the clone of Jedi Master Jorus C'Boath to coordinate his attacks, the Iceni would have fallen and the NTF would have lost heart, they'd have been destroyed.  Unless the New Republic showed up and then it would have been "enemy of my enemy", what a mistake they would have made.

yeah, but just to say that bosh probably didn't end up admiral just because he was the son of some governor
I doubt Bosh is stupid or anything.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by venom2506

I doubt Bosh is stupid or anything.

He did choose to hang out with Shivans, I doubt that was listed amongthe GTVA's brightest of moves.

[Sandwich]

Thrawn. But I must admit, the real "actors" they chose for Thrawn and Mara Jade don't really suit what I had pictured in my mind. Thrawn isn't supposed to be pudgy! And Mara... I had pictured her with hair done more like Kira Nerys (sp?) from DS9 - sort of. Whatevers.

[Knight Templar]

Yeah, I noticed that.

Those pictures came from the now dead Star Wars CCG (dunno if anyone here ever played) but the Jade Actor was ok (Shannon Baksa) but she looks kinda.. bleh in a few pictures though.

For Jade, I prefer one page out of the Essential Chronology Book, the one covering Spectre of the Past/Vision of the Future.

As for Thrawn, ACK!. Totally wrong.

Some of the other ones they used for the card game were horrible too.. like Michael A. Stackpole played Corran.. he has like a Whiteman's (Receding hairline) Afro! and is kinda pudgy at that. Not What I had pegged as corran at all.

[kode]

Thrawn, I guess...

But imagine the power they would have if they joined forces...

[Knight Templar]

What we need is a Vong vs. Shivan match

[WMCoolmon]

Or a Vasudan vs. Calamari match.

The Vasudans wuv fish, though...that could cause problems.

[Galemp]

Well... if we had a little more help with the Star Wars TC...

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
What we need is a Vong vs. Shivan match

With Humanity's luck .... they'd mate

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Thrawn would win, as he has the Scimitar assault bombers, but then Zaarin would woop him because he had the Tie Defenders.

And Vasudans vs Protoss would be great.

[SKYNET-011]

Originally posted by Warlock


With Humanity's luck .... they'd mate

That's just wrong...

[Carl]

problem is, for all we know, one turbolaser could destroy the iceni, or one terranturret#weak could take out an ISD. there's no way to know because we've never seen it before and neither give measurements for there weapons yield.