[kode]

Originally posted by Dark_4ce
This is why I'll happily be living in that log cabin in the Norwegian mountains.

Sweden is gonna invade norway. We're doing it for the oil.

[Dark_4ce]

Originally posted by kode


Sweden is gonna invade norway. We're doing it for the oil.

Hmpff... Figures...

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Jesus christ this got more replies than I ever imagined.

There is going to be a lot of Direct Action, you know. I have some Anarchist associates who are already planning.

[Warlock]

Ummm Sand's point ppl

Prisoner of Saddam : Either killed out right, or beat and tortured constantly then have your families sent little keepsakes (Liver, spleen)

Prisoner of Bush : depending on your rank you'd be interogated (common soldier would be a waste of time to interogate), yoiu'd be fed, you'd be given a bed and reasonable medical treatment for any wounds plus santitary supplies, basically well treated until the end of the war and then freed. (Yes higher ranks [Generals or what not] would likely stand war trails).

How the hell should I know!? I just know that they are both stupid.

That was a lame argument.  Whos's nicer... hmmppffff

LMAO My dear you just earned a clueless medal!

DS was won in part because of our treatment of Iraqi prisoners.

Hell they were treated better as prisoners than as soilders
LOL  Youhave any idea how many Iraqi Troops just up and surrendered to US troops they could have easily defeated ? I'm not talking even groups,.. I mean like encounters between one US squad (4-6 men) and an Iraqi Tank platoon,...where the Iraqis surrendered outright without anyone firing a shot. It wasn't because our M-16's were shiney.

[Stryke 9]

Prisoner of Iraq: Get essentially held hostage, likely in exchange for a US pullout. Get shot when it doesn't happen.

Prisoner of Bush: Never! *shoots self*

Probably get interrogated, put in a little cage, and given the full Stalin treatment.


It's not fun either way, but nobody ever said being a POW was. Since neither side is gonna feel really obligated to go by the Geneva Convention (Bush because he already doesn't, Saddam because he and all his officers are pretty much dead and might as well hurt as many enemies as they can as badly as they can), I think I'd rather not be taken alive by either side.



Anyway, this thread is lame. Making predictions in a completely unpredictable situation is lame. There's a possiblilty that everything will go swimmingly for Bush, he'll find all sorts of bioweapons and a secret conspiracy with France, Germany, and Russia after the war, and send some "Iraqi" who's spent the last 30 years plotting revenge on 80% of Iraq from Washington and loves Bush unquestioningly to be the new dictator. There's a roughly equal possibility that the US army will end up fighting civilian militias in the streets of Baghdad, while Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Iran undergo bloody coups and have their governments replaced by virulently anti-US reactionaries who have absolutely no qualms about biobombing Israel and the east coast of the US, triggering a nuclear exchange and causing China to see its opportunity and invade from California, resulting in a bio/chemo/nuclear war that leaves the Midwest a bioactive crater, sets the whole world into a nuclear winter, and kills off 90% of humanity. Moreover, everyone on every side of the conflict is a bastard, including the US and Iraqi people (excepting the Kurds) who put up with this crap and let their leaders stay in power. The Kurds, they're fine and all power to them- they actually tried to do something about it after the Gulf War, and woulda succeeded if the US hadn't shafted thm. Now we're doing it again in selling them out to Turkey, which makes them doubly cool in my opinion. Maybe they should get Iraq and Washington.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Warlock


Yea if that was actually true and not fiction it might be bad.

but it's not fiction.  it's the truth!  look:

• If Iraq does disarm, and hand over their weapons, Bush will say "See?  They had weapons of mass destruction!" and he'll attack them.
  
• If Iraq does NOT disarm, and hand over weapons, Bush will say "They haven't disarmed!  Attack them!"...
  

Now face it... it's a lose/lose situation, they get attacked either way, and personally i'd rather have defense when i'm attacked instead of being helpless after giving away all the weapons

[Warlock]

If Iraq actually disarmed and showed proof they've disarmed we wouldn't have this thread right now

Ppl forget Bush himself can't declare war ? Congress has that power. Bush can declare a police action, but if I recall correctly Congress can pull back from that even.

I love how everyone still blames it all on Bush like he's just sitting there handing out orders and the US military just follows suit.  It simply doesn't work that way guys.

[Stryke 9]

Right now Congress is bending over and begging for more. They're even moderately willing to pass PAII. They're toadies, but they're not the evil overlord- deal with Bush (meaning the Bush administration, not just the individual), everyone else will fall in and start talking about what a horrible mistake everyone else made allowing the war.

And Warlock's right that a lack of evidence is supposed to be evidence in and of itself. The UN doesn't see it this way not because they need concrete proof, but because if you impose a full-compliance standard on Iraq, you're gonna have to start enforcing the MDW laws that literally every other nation (short of maybe South Africa) in the entire world has ignored or people are gonna notice the blatant hypocrisy- and since "every other nation" comprises a 100% majority of the UN, they don't like that idea.

[Sandwich]

I like pie.

[CP5670]

I like pi.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by CP5670
I like pi.

[Turnsky]

Pie (no it's not what you think)

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by Sandwich

BTW, CP, why is it that

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(position error)*(momentum error) > 1/pi

?

(the Uncertainty Principle)

[Solatar]

that's like the first non-weebl and bob pie link in a long time.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Warlock
LMAO My dear you just earned a clueless medal!

DS was won in part because of our treatment of Iraqi prisoners.

Hell they were treated better as prisoners than as soilders
LOL  Youhave any idea how many Iraqi Troops just up and surrendered to US troops they could have easily defeated ? I'm not talking even groups,.. I mean like encounters between one US squad (4-6 men) and an Iraqi Tank platoon,...where the Iraqis surrendered outright without anyone firing a shot. It wasn't because our M-16's were shiney.

Perhaps I should've posted a smilie. I just posted that cause  couldn't be arsed to wroite an entire page of arguments. I wasn't serious.

[Dan1]

One thing...even the middle east countries can't stand together.  Have any of you heard about the Arab Leauge Summit?  Funniest thing i heard all last week.


I'm not sure Y  but i get the impression that Tiara dislikes Bush a lot..but strangely defends Siddam.....

[NeoHunter]

Seriously speaking, I have never heard of the Arab League before, much less a Arab League Summit. But I guess with the world viewing Arabs and all other Muslim countries as possible hidding places and partners with terrorists, they had to band together for protection or something.

And by the way, its not the United Nations that have fail us. It's Bush who wants to be a cowboy and whack people.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by NeoHunter
And by the way, its not the United Nations that have fail us. It's Bush who wants to be a cowboy and whack people.

You do know it was the UN that should have been making sure Sadam disarmed over the last 12 years right ?

And that it was because of the UN that we stopped in DS and didn't remove Sadam then.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Dan1

I'm not sure Y  but i get the impression that Tiara dislikes Bush a lot..but strangely defends Siddam.....

I have said more then once that I agree that Saddam has to go. But just NOT like tthe way Bush is doing it.

Yeah, I dislike Bush and he'll never have my respect. But I HATE Saddam. I'm just smart enough not to overtrow the entire global community.

Do you guys even read what I write

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Tiara



I have said more then once that I agree that Saddam has to go. But just NOT like tthe way Bush is doing it.
 

Here, here!