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do you think we should, you know...

I am an american and I think we should
25 (26%)
I am american and I don't think we should
14 (14.6%)
I am american and don't care what hapens
4 (4.2%)
I am not american and I think we (you) should
11 (11.5%)
I am not american and I don't think we (you) should
32 (33.3%)
I am not american and I don't care what you do
7 (7.3%)
I am american living elsewhere and will do it myself if they don't!
3 (3.1%)

Total Members Voted: 94

Voting closed: March 12, 2003, 05:52:55 pm

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Offline vyper

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Reply #1000 on: April 04, 2003, 04:32:03 am
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Originally posted by J.F.K.
Recently read an American communist's view on the war. Ack; I'm tired of all this media saturation on the war. I bet history students of the future will have a ball game... unless Fahrenheit 359 becomes a reality. :nervous:


I thot it was 451?
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Reply #1001 on: April 04, 2003, 04:32:21 am
haha, 1000th post in the thread :D
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sorry...:(

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wait a sec,
ahhggg, damn you vyper, now I have to try and start another topic to go to 1000 post long :mad:
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Reply #1002 on: April 04, 2003, 04:34:41 am
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haha, 1000th post in the thread :D
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sorry...:(

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ahhggg, damn you vyper, now I have to try and start another topic to go to 1000 post long :mad:


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Offline J.F.K.

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Reply #1003 on: April 04, 2003, 04:38:30 am
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Originally posted by vyper
I thot it was 451?


Yeah, it was, actually. My memory's scratchy.

Poor Bobboau :D
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Reply #1004 on: April 04, 2003, 05:42:08 am
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Originally posted by Razor


Oh now I get it. I lost my freedom of speech.


:wtf:

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well you never had it, this is a privet board so admins have the ultimate power to repress, though we all know you're stance and I don't know why he deleted whatever it was that you said, I doubt it was any more inflamitory than anything you have ever posted before...


:wtf:!?!?! Uhm, I was referring to the April Fools thing Styxx and I pulled, that replaced "my" with "your", "he" with "she", etc - all over the board. I didn't edit anything of anyones.

Or rather, when I do, I _always_ leave a nice bold red "Edited by Sandwich" type note in the post. :)
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Offline Splinter

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Reply #1005 on: April 04, 2003, 08:31:29 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
Or rather, when I do, I _always_ leave a nice bold red "Edited by Sandwich" type note in the post. :)


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Offline Razor

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Reply #1006 on: April 04, 2003, 11:19:27 am
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Originally posted by vyper


You wish.


No not wish. I know. :p Good guys don't massacre about a half a billion people in a matter of some 30 or 40 years. It is quite opposite. We are the good guys, you are bad. And bad guys like you have weapons of mass destruction and you break international laws and conventions We never attacked anyone. We just deffend our great country from terrorists like USA and it's NATO allies, Albanians and everyone else who is foolish enough to try to hurt us. We have a saying here at home. FREEDOM IS PRICELESS!
 

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Reply #1007 on: April 04, 2003, 11:35:09 am
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You were always the bad guys. :p
I DO hope you're kidding.  The communists were never 'good guys' by any means.  The criminal wastes, damages and social chaos perpetrated in the name of that system are horrendous.  You can spout all you want about the US being evil, but I'll take the US any day of the week over the other side in the cold war.

I'm quite sure you don't want this place run in a communist model, do you?
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Reply #1008 on: April 04, 2003, 11:37:01 am
Tell me, comrade Razor - what would you be willing to give to The Party?
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Reply #1009 on: April 04, 2003, 11:44:49 am
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Originally posted by Shrike
I'm quite sure you don't want this place run in a communist model, do you?


I would. It hasn't been tried yet, you know...
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #1010 on: April 04, 2003, 11:45:03 am
Communism = good

Humans running a Communist state = baaaaaaaad
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Offline kode

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Reply #1011 on: April 04, 2003, 11:46:48 am
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Originally posted by Tiara
Communism = good

Humans running a Communist state = baaaaaaaad


how can you know? as far as I know, communism hasn't been achieved in any country in the world. just as some people do bad things and call it democracy, some people do bad things and call it communism.
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Offline Shrike

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Reply #1012 on: April 04, 2003, 12:19:21 pm
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Originally posted by kode
I would. It hasn't been tried yet, you know...
Well, we can try.

First, we will no longer have moderators or administrators, in the proletariat all will be equal.

However, since HLP is not yet ready for communism, there will have to be a dictatorship of the proletariat in the interim.

As I led the revolution, it is obvious I have a higher state of revolutionary conciousness, it only stands to reason that I will lead this and thus lead HLP to  communism.

We need a beaurocracy to ensure that everything functions smoothly, oh good, we have a Party, we'll use that.

However, since you're not agreeing with what the Party is saying, you must be an agent of foreign imperialist powers who want us to fail.  As such, I suggest you recant your crimes.  Here, I'll help.

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I am afraid I have been led astray by Capitalist Imperialist Powers and confess my crimes against the glorious Socialist State of Hard Light.
Thank you comrade.

*Gunshot*

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Reply #1013 on: April 04, 2003, 12:23:18 pm
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Originally posted by kode


how can you know? as far as I know, communism hasn't been achieved in any country in the world. just as some people do bad things and call it democracy, some people do bad things and call it communism.


Communism assumes that no one wants to get a one up on someone else.  History has shown us that competition is the chief human instinct.  I mean **** go back to Cain and Able.
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Reply #1014 on: April 04, 2003, 12:24:48 pm
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how can you know? as far as I know, communism hasn't been achieved in any country in the world. just as some people do bad things and call it democracy, some people do bad things and call it communism.


It hasn't achieved anything cause it was ran by HUMANS. Humans are corrupt. And in a Communist state there is no room for corruption. Thats why any communist nation/state in this world is doomed to fail.

Now, if it were run by computers I think it could definately work. :D As long as it isn't a concious computer cause that could get corrupt too.

Communism in its purest form can work. Go read up on the communist system and how it would work if it worked exactly as it supposed to.
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Reply #1015 on: April 04, 2003, 12:26:30 pm
One  more thing.  

For centuries there has been war and strife in Italy and what has come out of it?  Da Vinci, Michelangelo, Rapheal, the Sistine Chapel etc.

Let's look at switzerland... highly peaceful and fairly socialist what has come out of that country?  The coo coo clock.

Mankind defines itself via conflicts and struggles.  Do we have the 100 year peace?  No.  We have the hundred year war.

Face it communism would fail because mankind does not work that way.  Communism = Utopia.  Now look up what the later means.
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Reply #1016 on: April 04, 2003, 12:33:31 pm
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One  more thing.  

Let's look at switzerland... highly peaceful and fairly socialist what has come out of that country?  The coo coo clock.

Viva la Swiss bank-account!

Mankind defines itself via conflicts and struggles.  Do we have the 100 year peace?  No.  We have the hundred year war.

If mankind defined itsself through struggle then what is Ghandi? What is Budhism? I know that not nearly everyone agrees with those two things but those things define a lot of people.

Also, conflicts does not define PEOPLE it defines GOVERNMENTS. I don't WANT struggle or conflict. It is the urge for peace that defines us. That urge however is something that governments use as a reason for conflict. That is always the reason for war on this planet.

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Reply #1017 on: April 04, 2003, 12:36:35 pm
Conflict does not necessarily equal war.  Defining onself through competition would probably be a better way of saying it, after all, a lot has come from peaceful competition.

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Reply #1018 on: April 04, 2003, 12:36:43 pm
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What is Ghandi?

A damn hippie.

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What is Budhism?

A bunch of damn hippies.
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Offline Tiara

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Reply #1019 on: April 04, 2003, 12:39:17 pm
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Conflict does not necessarily equal war.  Defining onself through competition would probably be a better way of saying it, after all, a lot has come from peaceful competition.


Peacefull competition... That sounds about right. :)

But still, I refuse to believe that struggle and conflict is what defines us.

Also I think you cannot capture in one or two words what definbes us. We are defined by a multitude of things.
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