[phreak]

what was the name of Plasma's super campaign?

[Unknown Target]

Fine, fine, I give up. I wanted to start it, but, it seems there's too much negative attitudes about it. I will help, though, if someone who thinks they can stomach the negativity wants to take the lead.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Anyway. Sketched  concept art is for pussies.

bleh!

[Shrike]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Fine, fine, I give up. Personally, though, I'm not going to be holding my breath for any future campaigns.

Because you're trying to be too ambitious and not take enough from what's already existing.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Shrike
Because you're trying to be too ambitious and not take enough from what's already existing.

That's because I like to start big. If I'm going to devote a large portion of my time to doing something, it might as well be worthwhile, not some small little thing that I don't really want to do.

EDIT: Sorry if this annoys anyone to the extent that they want to put a bullet in their monitor.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Shrike
Because you're trying to be too ambitious and not take enough from what's already existing.

[color=66ff00]Damn straight, you're not being realistic about goals here UT. I'm asking everyone to start small, the concept art is a good way to do this. You want an entirely new engine, graphics and models, yesterday. Try to keep things in perspective.
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[WMCoolmon]

I think the big complaint here is that you aren't taking advantage of the SCP. It already has a web site, a bug tracker, CVS, a tester list, and coders. As near as I can tell, you're saying you want to form another SCP, but combine it with a campaign.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
I made an error: I was sort of assuming that this project would take the SCP coders + stuff as a sort of Sub-Project. The major one (for the sake of continuity, I'm going to call it Freespace 2.5), would have a major overhaul: the graphics. The coders could add in what they thought would be valid, and then everything would be put together as one release. We could do the engine first and then all the bells and whistles, or we could do them first, then integrate them into a new engine (many of which are available online, BTW).

[Unknown Target]

I'm also saying that, rather than just another campaign with the SCP enhancements, it would be a standard installation.

[Sesquipedalian]

Personally, I think people are whining too much.  Instead of posting about FS2 is supposedly dying, and making doom and gloom predictions that nothing is ever going to be completed, why don't you use that time to help something that is already underway?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Personally, I think people are whining too much.  Instead of posting about FS2 is supposedly dying, and making doom and gloom predictions that nothing is ever going to be completed, why don't you use that time to help something that is already underway?

Hear bloody hear.

People can talk all they want, but things need to be DONE.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Sesquipedalian
Personally, I think people are whining too much.  Instead of posting about FS2 is supposedly dying, and making doom and gloom predictions that nothing is ever going to be completed, why don't you use that time to help something that is already underway?

[color=66ff00]I already am, you just don't know about it.
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[Shrike]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
That's because I like to start big. If I'm going to devote a large portion of my time to doing something, it might as well be worthwhile, not some small little thing that I don't really want to do.

Just because you want a big project doesn't mean you have to make everything big.  What is the inherent problem with using the FS2 + SCP engine?  It'd make much more sense to focus on what can be accomplished then on blue-sky dreaming.  If you're going to make an entirely new engine you might as well just market it and make money.

[Kamikaze]

argh I was assuming this would be a join-SCP project... anyway it's probably alread been said (I'm not going to read it all), but UT you should integrate this with SCP's current work. The engine rehaul will work nicely with this and dumping all the progress SCPs had is wasteful, frustrating and inefficient for everyone.

[Unknown Target]

Blagh, I'm tired.

*goes back to working on the Robotech MOD*

[Stryke 9]

Ses: Who says I'm not? The problem is, one of the campaigns I'm working on has pretty much officially proclaimed it's dying, and the other ones all slowed down quite a lot, too. I'm getting sick of doing all these minutes of ani work that are never going to see the light, and I want to fucking do something about it. You don't want to, have fun intellectually masturbating over a project that will never be more than half-finished.

[Sandwich]

About a new engine: it's a no-go - at least not here on HLP. Why do you think HLP isn't hosting the Homeworld MOD, where FS ships are put into the Homeworld engine? Because that's beyond our allotted territory here at GameSpy. Planet Homeworld deals with the Homeworld engine, while we deal with the Freespace engine. And, despite it seeming weird that Homeworlders would be dealing with FS ships and story, it makes sense to keep all the knowledge and talent about each game engine one single sites.

But anyway, reasons aside, unfortunately HLP is currently not allowed to focus on other engines. Yes, we have a Freelancer discussion forum, where people can trade MODding tips and whatnot, but HLP as a whole is not focussed on Freelancer, nor can we host any MODs for the Freelancer engine.

[RandomTiger]

Dont let any work go to waste, if one MOD doesnt want it give it to another.

[HotSnoJ]

Originally posted by Sandwich
About a new engine: it's a no-go - at least not here on HLP. Why do you think HLP isn't hosting the Homeworld MOD, where FS ships are put into the Homeworld engine? Because that's beyond our allotted territory here at GameSpy. Planet Homeworld deals with the Homeworld engine, while we deal with the Freespace engine. And, despite it seeming weird that Homeworlders would be dealing with FS ships and story, it makes sense to keep all the knowledge and talent about each game engine one single sites.

But anyway, reasons aside, unfortunately HLP is currently not allowed to focus on other engines. Yes, we have a Freelancer discussion forum, where people can trade MODding tips and whatnot, but HLP as a whole is not focussed on Freelancer, nor can we host any MODs for the Freelancer engine.

Solution: get another hostinmg service. We could all chip in $5 and get great hosting.

Note to self: start researching on how to make a web server.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by RandomTiger
Dont let any work go to waste, if one MOD doesnt want it give it to another.

[color=66ff00]Unfortunately most mods have their own style, work from one mod would look out of place in another. In some cases people like Venom who have put a great deal of time and effort into their mod are not willing to see everyone take their materials and place them in a context that's unsuitable.
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