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Offline Rictor

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Computer cooling problem
Ok guys heres the situation

Over the past few weeks, its been very hot here (Frozen North my ass). My computer overheats and freezes up. To try to fix the problem, I recently installed an extra fan in the back of the case, nothing fancy just a 5$ cheapo one. That didn't seem to help, so my bro got the idea of opening up the case on one side and putting the big desk fan right beside the computer. I worked in a computer store for a while, and I remember that a computer case is usually better cooled while closed. My dad confirms this. Nevertheless, this has been our setup for the past few days. I even installed a Motherboard Montior program to check the temperature.

The comp runs between 65 and 73 C usually, at which point (72-73) it freezes. I know this isn't normal, even for an AMD processor (AMD 1700+ 1.5Ghz), but I can't seem to get the temperature any lower. Sometimes it can run for hours without freezing, and sometimes its runs for 20-30 mins and then freezes.


Anyone have a solution?? Its really bothering me.

PS: Should the fan in the back of the case be blowing in or out of the comp? We tried it both ways and there doesn't seem to be a difference, but I'm pretty sure there is a right way and a wrong way..

 

Offline Thorn

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Computer cooling problem
Get two fans, mount one on the top, other bottom, or front/back either works, it gets the air moving in the case...
get abigger heatsink/fan..
Thermaltake Volcano's work great...
the one I have is this monster solid copper heatsink with this huge fan on it.. my comp sounds like a Jet, but its cool...

 

Offline Rictor

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Maybe I should mention that money is an issue:D :D

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Computer cooling problem
What you want is one of these:



Mine keeps my AMD XP 1.53 at a frosty 40c or below, even in this heatwave :nod:

 

Offline Grey Wolf

Computer cooling problem
Another thing you can try is what I just spent the last half hour messing with: Voltage reductions :)
I got my AXP 1800+ (which is what I believe you have) overclocked by 300 MHz, and then reduced the voltage by .025V to 1.575, and it runs quite stably :)

EDIT: If that doesn't work, try going for a good, yet cheap heatsink. My Glacialtech keeps my cpu in the mid 50s even with the overclock, and I've heard good things about Speeze heatsinks, too.
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Offline diamondgeezer

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:wtf: You overclocked it... and reduced the voltage?

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Yep, and it's stable :p
Went from 11.5 x 133 (1.53 GHz) to 11.0 x 166 (1.83 GHz) and managed to reduce the voltage.
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Offline Rictor

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DG: :eek2: :eek2: That thiing looks like it's used to cool NASA. Where does the computer fit?

Yeah, if this keeps up, I guess I'll have to get a new heatsink..

What I'm really trying to ask here is: "Can you please point out what I am doing obviously wrong, so that I can easily fix my mistake using existing equipment and minimal time"

Maybe I just overestimate the effeiciency of computers.

 

Offline diamondgeezer

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May well try and o/c my CPU... is that the most you got out of yours, or are you simply making a token gesture towards safety?

Rictor: you clip it over your CPU like any other heatsink, but the 120mm fan is supported by a bracket screwed in to the screw holes used to secure your PCI cards. You can also get an aluminium/copper version which looks pretter but isn't as efficient.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2003, 06:18:11 pm by 170 »

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Token gesture towards safety :p
I've got it up to 2 GHz (12 x 166) @ 1.7 Volts, but I prefer 11 x 166 since it runs quite a bit cooler thanks to the lower voltage. I tried 12.5 x 166, which is the max I could even attempt to pull off with my system, but it failed to get into Windows at the maximum voltage my board'll put out (1.7).
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Offline vyper

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Quote
Originally posted by diamondgeezer
What you want is one of these:



Mine keeps my AMD XP 1.53 at a frosty 40c or below, even in this heatwave :nod:


Dear God that is one freaky looking bit of hardware!

Meh, this heatwave blows now -  I'm sunburnt. :hopping:
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Offline Grey Wolf

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To tell you the truth, as opposed to that Zalman, I'd prefer this:

The Swiftech 462+. Weight: 650g
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Offline Rictor

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:wtf: :wtf:

Ok, I think you misunderstand...my computer is a regular sized case, not a freaking server. As a general rule of thumb, if the heatsink is bigger than your head, its a no go:D :D

Cmon guys, does anyone know a solution. I'm sure you dont all have fancy fans and heatsinks, so whats your method??

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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I know :p I just felt like posting it. Want my realistic suggestion? The Glacialtech 2500, an updated version of the one I have. It cools better than the Zalman, and is cheaper.

$25 (USD) at www.newegg.com
The primary difference between this one and mine is the heatsink is copper instead of aluminum, and costs $10 more.
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Offline tEAbAG

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Computer cooling problem
Get a cheep little blower from radio shack and use your existing fans to get an intake/outake thing going.  Depending on your case you might have to cut some holes.  I used this on my old 700 mHz athlon/GeForce 128(both 1st gen), which was a pretty hot combo, and never really had heat problems.  You might want to go to the next step up on your heat sinks though, the manufacture's ones suck for overclocking.
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Offline IceFire

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Computer cooling problem
Aside from fans...ensure that there is proper airflow within the case itself by keeping the wires together and out of the way (cheap pastic ties to keep the wires bundled together works very nicely).

65c idle isn't a good temperature, even for one of the earlier Athlons.
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This thread has giving me a couple of ideas as to what to replace my Volcano 9 with. Right now, my CPU (a 2400+ XP at stock speed/voltage) still gets to 40-42C under load which isn't good enough seeing as the ambient temperatures are in the 20-25C range and we're a few months off a 40C average ambient temp summer period. That big mofo diamondgeezer posted is out of the question as it costs AUD$110 which I won't pay for a heatsink but the other two look like they may be worth investigating. The other alternative is water cooling but that's outlandishly expensive too.
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Offline Fineus

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Computer cooling problem
Seems like this is the best place to ask my question:

Whats the "average" running temperature for a AMD T-Bred 2600GHz CPU in a fairly hot climate? I swear that despite my best attempts it's still running to hot.. but then I'm not sure if that is true or not.

 
Computer cooling problem
another question, can a CRT monitor suffer from heat problems?

i get flashy stripes on my screen, and it only get's worse as the temperature rises, is this due to the heat, or do i need a new screen?

also, i hate heat, i can't stand this wheater.
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Offline diamondgeezer

Computer cooling problem
Tell what I'm gonna do is to link to Tom's Hardware Guide - have a go with their forums, you'll soon get answeres for questions like these