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Offline Kazan

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Ok, I am sitting around thinking about stuff tonight - and I realized that there are some mods out there that many would consider some of the "Best of FreeSpace 2" that I've never played.   _MANY_ People have never played them.

A simple solution came to my mind: a big package of the BEST MODS

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There will be four Categories in the "Best of FreeSpace 2"

Category 1: Completed Mods that do not use any SCP features
Category 2: Completed Mods that support the SCP
Category 3: Up-and coming mods [incomplete ones that look like they're going to become all stars]
Category 4: Iteratively versioned mods - ie mods that are not "released all at once" - but in stages

note: completed means they are certified final release (All episodes released, etc) - this disqualifies The Babylon Project unfortunately -  hence why category 4 exists. --

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We also need to elect a judging panel - and since I came up with the idea I reserve the right to lead that panel.  Panel Nominations will take place in THIS THREAD the four most nominated people that are willing to put time into this project will be the board members.  If those board members wish we can add more members from the nomination list as needed.

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Once the Judging Panel is assembled we will have mods nominated for the categories above - the top 15 to 20 mods from each category will be judged - and the best ones will be put into Mod Packs.  To use the mod packs you will be required to have the SCP executeable  - primarily for using the "mod" subsystem so you can have all the mods simultaenously installed without problems - but also because many of the new features automatically improve the visuals without requiring special data from the mod authors.

The category 4 mod pack will be updated from time to time to reflect changes.

Mods in category 3 will be judged when released - if they pass they will be added to the mod pack of the proper category.


The mods in the package will be placed in VPs when possible. This saves harddrive space, enables easier install/uninstall/update.  So all the main game data will be in vp files - naming convention to be determined possible "BoFS2-[modname]-[subpack]-[version].vp" - so Derelict would be BoFS2-Derelict-Core-1_0.vp and BoFS2-Derelict-Sound-1_0.vp for example [just pulled names outta my head there].

Updates will be available as patches - via the same NSIS installer tempate I wrote for The Babylon Project.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NOMINATE YOUR CANDIDATES FOR THE JUDGING PANEL
you cannot nominate yourself, sorry

Nominations posted between now and October 2nd will be considered as valid
this time period is subject to extension at my descretion

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I personally nominate
Venom
Styxx
Tolwyn
IceFire
Bobboau
Snipes (Raa Tor'h)
Inquisitor


and there are some others that if their names came to mind right now I'd nominate.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2003, 01:37:40 am by 30 »
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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I'd also suggest that this post be stickied.  Something else I was thinking about as far as the Modpack is concerned.  You were a bit unclear as to whether the modpack would include the entire download for each winning mod, or whether the pack would instead contain a few select missions from each mod... kind of a sampler.  In addition, perhaps you could make this a periodic event, say 1, 2, or 4 times a year.  It might even push some mods in progress to get their work done so that they can come out in time to qualify... kind of like the way movies will try to make it for a certain date to qualify for an Oscar.  Hey, you could even have an award image that winning mods can place on their main page.  You could even (eventually) have categories like "Most promissing mod or campaign by a first time designer." :D

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Stuck, I'm curious to see where this leads...

I think it has real potential - but perhaps you shouldn't get ahead of yourself with the SCP. I *do* speak for myself when I say that as an end user I'd rather have a fully polished, working, set of mods than some that are kinda buggy WIPs like the SCP is right now. (However as a modder I'm more than happy to play with the SCP at the moment.. heh).

Just chucking the idea up. I love the idea of mod packages as they are a great way to draw new folk into whats going on around here.

 

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Originally posted by Kalfireth
Stuck, I'm curious to see where this leads...

I think it has real potential - but perhaps you shouldn't get ahead of yourself with the SCP. I *do* speak for myself when I say that as an end user I'd rather have a fully polished, working, set of mods than some that are kinda buggy WIPs like the SCP is right now. (However as a modder I'm more than happy to play with the SCP at the moment.. heh).

Just chucking the idea up. I love the idea of mod packages as they are a great way to draw new folk into whats going on around here.


the SCP is really only required if you want convient mod management - if you really want to avoid the SCP [just like i want to avoid buggy mods] then you can use the whole rename/folder/copy files thing going on - and i could theorectically rig up FreeSpace 2 Package Manager (yeah.... haven't heard much about that program since i wrote it ages ago!) definitions that work it automatically.... atleast i think i can without rewriting code.
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I would rather use the new launcher.

You know you can actually run the old FS2.exe too.
BTW 3.5 is a quite stabile build, with the exception of multiplayer and the movies in mve format which were ommited.
Since this is a mod pack I doubt anyone would be making mve files for their own campaign, and you can't play mods online anyway, only SCP will allow you to do that.
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Offline Kazan

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Originally posted by Flaser
I would rather use the new launcher.

You know you can actually run the old FS2.exe too.
BTW 3.5 is a quite stabile build, with the exception of multiplayer and the movies in mve format which were ommited.
Since this is a mod pack I doubt anyone would be making mve files for their own campaign, and you can't play mods online anyway, only SCP will allow you to do that.


the "-mod" feature isn't in FS2 1.2 - only in FS2 Open

MVEs will never return - we have AVI support not
Multiplayer is almost comleted
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Offline Gloriano

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sounds good idea:) :yes:
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Offline Kazan

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ok... so start nominating candidates already!
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Offline Gloriano

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i nominate these



Styxx
Tolwyn
IceFire
Bobboau
Snipes (Raa Tor'h)
Inquisitor
Galactic Emperor
Woomeister
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i like the idea a lot, and i nominate Setekh and Inquisitor.
just another newbie without any modding, FREDding or real programming experience

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I nominate:

Tolwyn:yes:
IceFire:yes:
Inquisitor:yes:
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Offline gevatter Lars

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I think it would be quite good if someone could post which mods the different persons are working on...because I have a very very bad namememory.
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Offline Kazan

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that would be helpful
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Offline Tolwyn

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well, I am working mainly on Wing Commander Saga (and on a few other mods, but since they are not for FS2, this fact has no importance)...

Greetings Tolwyn
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Offline Galemp

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*waits for his completed mod to be nominated*

:nervous:
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Members I've personally met: RedStreblo, Goober5000, Sandwich, Splinter, Su-tehp, Hippo, CP5670, Terran Emperor, Karajorma, Dekker, McCall, Admiral Wolf, mxlm, RedSniper, Stealth, Black Wolf...

 

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Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
*waits for his completed mod to be nominated*

:nervous:


isn't it already done? :D
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Offline Galemp

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But I fit under Category 2...
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Members I've personally met: RedStreblo, Goober5000, Sandwich, Splinter, Su-tehp, Hippo, CP5670, Terran Emperor, Karajorma, Dekker, McCall, Admiral Wolf, mxlm, RedSniper, Stealth, Black Wolf...

 
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But I fit under Category 2...


  But this thread is for Panel Nominations, so you need to wait for the actual MOD Nominations thread or whatever.

 

Offline Kazan

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*sighs*  The deadline has been extended to when ever I think enough people have replied to this thread for it to be accurate!
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Well since the others dosn't tell me what they are doing I nominate the only one I know closer ->

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