[mikhael]

Feh. Integrated stuff tends to hog up on CPU and/or system RAM. All of my boards that have extraneous integrated stuff (except for SATA, SCSI, Firewire or USB) have that stuff disabled.

Of course, I usually disable serial and parallel ports, and any other unused ports in the BIOS anyway. You'd be surprised at how much more stable a system is when you rip out unused hardware, compatibility layers, and useless convenience stuff.

OH wait. You probably wouldn't. You run a sane OS (well, marginally) that already leaves out the extraneous compatibility layers and useless convenience stuff. But a Windows user might notice.

[Admiral LSD]

The integrated hardware on nForce is, for the most part,just that, hardware. Since it doesn't rely on software drivers to do the leg work CPU utilisation is quite low. The boards with integrated graphics do share system RAM though and the audio on boards with the MCP south bridge is basic (read: ****) AC'97 stuff but with boards based on the SPP+MCP-T combination it's all done entirely in hardware.

[Odyssey]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Lemme guess: Windows ME?

Nah, 98SE. I'm really seriously considering forcing her to use Linux or FreeBSD (downloaded BSD, got an old machine I can use for testing, just not got around to trying it yet) and showing her that with openoffice and a few media programmes she can do everything on it that she currently does in Windows... I'm sick of fixing her machine's problems as it stands currently

[kasperl]

well, RH pretty much feels like windows, so if you find a way to show the win98SE startup screen, change a few icons and ****, i might even doubt that she'd notice for quite some time.

[Kazan]

my parents may get their asses migrated to linux

[kasperl]

on the linux stuff, is there some RPM'd package that can do MSN? i'm using RH9, and i can only really use RPM's since i don't have not time at all and no way to do anything but double click an icon and hope it works.

[IceFire]

How would Linux be hard to use.  I've tried it (I have not yet installed on one of my systems but I see a Red Hat install on an older machine very soon) and it looks just like windows and operates almost like windows.

The learning curve is negligable...however throw a Mac OS X at her

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by IceFire
How would Linux be hard to use.  I've tried it (I have not yet installed on one of my systems but I see a Red Hat install on an older machine very soon) and it looks just like windows and operates almost like windows.

The learning curve is negligable...however throw a Mac OS X at her

Actually, the one time I tried Linux (about 3 years ago), I could not for the life of me figure out how to switch from 640x480 to something higher.

[kode]

Originally posted by Sandwich


Actually, the one time I tried Linux (about 3 years ago), I could not for the life of me figure out how to switch from 640x480 to something higher.

ctrl-alt-+ didn't werk for ye?

[Admiral LSD]

Originally posted by kasperl
on the linux stuff, is there some RPM'd package that can do MSN? i'm using RH9, and i can only really use RPM's since i don't have not time at all and no way to do anything but double click an icon and hope it works.

http://gaim.sourceforge.net

Does MSN, ICQ, Yahoo and AIM as well as Jabber, Napster(!) IRC and Gadu-Gadu.

[karajorma]

I actually tried Corel Linux at one point. I spent about 2 hours trying to install it and then discovered that it wouldn't boot if the boot partition was more than 8 Gig in size.

At that point I gave up on linux cause even windows no matter how much I hate it wasn't that stupid. I'm sure that's really unfair to lots of Linux distros but after paying for a product I can't use I'm not really tempted to try again (and no I don't particularly fancy downloading a Gig of data to try one of the free distros)

[Kamikaze]

You tried exactly the wrong distro, it would've helped to do some research first. Anyhow, that "gig of data" assesment is wrong, ever heard of "damn small linux"?

50 megabytes and it's still rather usable. http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

You can find some floppy-disk distros if you're still gonna complain about size.

[mikhael]

Kara, the best thing you can do is find a copy of Gnoppix (or Knoppix). You could download the ISO overnight and burn that to a CD.

Gnoppix is a CD based distro. You boot your machine from the CD and you can work with the linux kernel and all the nifty utilities and Xwindows without having to do repartition or anything. At worst, all you've done is wasted an overnight download and a blank CDR.

[Kamikaze]

Knoppix is great, especially as a "trial taste". Too bad they don't have nethack by default.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by mikhael
I fear integrated LAN, video and sound. These things are an evil beyond compare.

Ahhhh-men, lord.

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
Knoppix is great, especially as a "trial taste". Too bad they don't have nethack by default.

how do you mean, Knoppix can use a standard windows netowrk with shared net acces without problems.

and i tried GAIM, it needed some plugin for msn, which needed something else, wich needed something else, and everything was only available in source.

[Zarax]

Get Windows XP instead to follow that lamey penguin...
If you have an older machine, then 2000 will work fine...
linsux is for messers

[Descenterace]

A lot of the systems here at Bristol University use Linux.  My favourite aspect of Linux is the Terminal.

I know someone who's writing a terminal for Windows XP.  Even so, I prefer Linux.  However, it won't run any of my games so I'll always have a Windows XP partition just for that (and for using Visual Studio 6, coz the VC++ development environment has a debugger that beats the hell out of Linux's own).

As soon as I can get a cheap 80Gb hard disk, I'm putting Linux on my own computer.  My old 40Gb is totally full.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
You tried exactly the wrong distro, it would've helped to do some research first. Anyhow, that "gig of data" assesment is wrong, ever heard of "damn small linux"?

50 megabytes and it's still rather usable. http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

You can find some floppy-disk distros if you're still gonna complain about size.

I did some research actually. I choose Corel precisely because it was supposedly the easiest Linux distro to use (Even most Linux users were saying so at the time - At least on the boards I looked at).

As for the CD based versions wouldn't I have to set them up for my preferences every time I booted them?

I 'm saying that Linux has to be big just that most of the Distros are quite large and besides I've now got my hard drive partitioned the way I like it so if I were to install Linux I'd have to either move all my files around or get myself another hard drive. As you say I can use a CD based distro but that seems quite inefficient to me.

Lastly any reason why I shouldn't look into one of the BSD's instead of Linux? I've heard of a lot of good things about BSD.

[kode]

Originally posted by kasperl


how do you mean, Knoppix can use a standard windows netowrk with shared net acces without problems.

and i tried GAIM, it needed some plugin for msn, which needed something else, wich needed something else, and everything was only available in source.

nethack is a game... you should try it. maybe.