[Fury]

Yup, seems like Bioware reinstituted the bug found originally in NWN engine. Too late to fix it for xbox version though but it will probbaly be fixed sooner or later in pc version.

And if you want fancy crystals and you have the pc version, look for Mantle of the Force and Guardian of the Force crystals.

[Grey Wolf]

Mr. Fury, I wasn't asking for Epic Levels. I was just wondering if they would. Not as vital for KotoR as NWN, though, considering the differences between the games.

[Warlock]

Yea using the extra sabers gives you the extra chances, my Jedi in the last Campaign I was in (P&P version) went that route, but personally with KotoR, I was more along the lines of increasing my chances of scoring more first round kills/ higher damage. With Master Flurry, I was getting off 4 hits per usage,...my midgame my main PC would rip a DarkJedi to bits in two rounds if not in the first round alone
Course my darkside PC was even worse  lol
I can't wait to hear how you guys do vs Malak though

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Mr. Fury
And if you want fancy crystals and you have the pc version, look for Mantle of the Force and Guardian of the Force crystals.

You just tell me where.

Warlock, when I take on my for--er Malak, I'll let you know how it comes out. I fully intend to make him more powerful than he can ever imagine.

[mikhael]

Well, Warlock, I just had a little chat with Malak on the Leviathan. So, he's sorta tough--I can't stun him, or push him, but he can choke and push me. What Malak can't do is stand up to a lightsaber in the gut. He is weak, and I remained strong.

[Fury]

mikhael, visit Yavin 4 station after getting the first map and the last map. Those crystals are for sell after you have all maps. Another is 25.000 and another is 20.000 credits. You can get more fancy stuff from there as well, like exoskeleton armors. I think you need to save the rodian from trandoshans (or whatever their race was called) twice before you can buy those crystals.

And Malak was playing with you on the Leviathan, he is much harder when you finally confront him. Although your character is also much better by then...

[mikhael]

I dunno, Fury. I'm pretty damned close to maxed out as it is. I've got to go to Korriban next and I'm already level 18 or 19. Lets put it this way: if it could be fought (without getting dark side points), I fought it. if it could be hacked, I've hacked it. If it could be repaired, I repaired it. If I didn't like experience rewards for quests, I reloaded  and tried again. I don't leave areas until I've opened everything and killed everything I can.
 
So, Malak can't really get that much tougher (Assuming enemies scale with your level). Bandon was pretty pathetic when I fought him at level 16. I'm not worried about Malak at all--especially if I get to fight him three on one next time.

Now, Yavin. I'm going to have to work some serious loot to be able to afford those. Luckily, I think I've picked up some good gear I never use (like some exosuits) because I don't use the non-jedi characters. They should sell for a good price. I've got something like 17k now, and I suppose I can go play Pazaak or race swoops (i hate these sorts of minigames. ) until I make up the difference.

[Fury]

Personally I use heavily armored jedi as my character. Jedi robes are just pathetic, Star Forge Robes and Revan's Robes being an exception. Although robe using characters does have force speed which is nifty and few other handy force powers more than an armored jedi, but I don't care much about those.

And yeah, Malak can be an easy opponent if you have a good character. First time I played through KotOR, Malak was annoyingly tough. Second and third time he was quite easy to beat. I didn't finish my fourth and fifth games but now I am going to finish my seventh game. (sixth was sort of a character experimentation...)

[Warlock]

Yea Malak on the Lev. is pretty easy,....but just wait

My first pass through I played the "Saint Jedi" route,...did my damnedest not to have anything remotly darkside,......and got my butt ripped off and handed back to me in pieces during the final fight.


One little hint,..the final fight ain't all about how swings the lightsaber best

[Crazy_Ivan80]

btw, did any of you think that the Rakatan looked suspiciously much like Mon Calamari?

[Warlock]

They've got some slight similarities, but nothing outrageously close.


Heads are a bit differently shaped, their eye's are on more pordomnant stalks and on the sides of their heads instead of forward facing, etc etc

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Mr. Fury
Personally I use heavily armored jedi as my character. Jedi robes are just pathetic, Star Forge Robes and Revan's Robes being an exception. Although robe using characters does have force speed which is nifty and few other handy force powers more than an armored jedi, but I don't care much about those.

That's so totally antithetical to my style of play. If you can't do force-speed or any of the other nifty Jedi tricks, its just not worth swinging a lightsaber. I suppose combat could be even less deadly (as in I might be able to sleep through the WHOLE fight) if I wore heavier armor, but I prefer to get past the battles quickly. Three Jedi, Stasis Field (or Destroy Droid) Master Speed and some hardcore Master Critical Strike action tends to clear a room faster than a fully automatic shotgun.

We'll see how this holds up as I finish Korriban and head off to the Star Forge.

[aldo_14]

Good...possibly great game, but what's up with all the swords?

[Fury]

What you mean?

[Ace]

Originally posted by aldo_14
Good...possibly great game, but what's up with all the swords?

All of the non-lightsaber swords are there so that non-Jedi characters in your party can hold their own against a Jedi.

In the game's story it's explained as the energy shields used are effective enough to warrant the return of melee weapons for most combats. (i.e. battles without Jedi/Sith goonies chopping people up)

[Fury]

Energy shields are mostly useless against melee attacks, melee shields being an exception. Lightsabers does energy damage which normal shields are supposed to block but they won't hold up very long.

Actually it's funny that some melee weapons does more damage than even modified lightsabers. Although with Mantle of the Force and Guardian of the Force you can make two very deadly sabers.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Ace


All of the non-lightsaber swords are there so that non-Jedi characters in your party can hold their own against a Jedi.

In the game's story it's explained as the energy shields used are effective enough to warrant the return of melee weapons for most combats. (i.e. battles without Jedi/Sith goonies chopping people up)

Bit of a flimsy excuse IMHO.  It just seem bizarre to see (the equivalent of) a stormtrooper holding a medieval-alike sword....and aren't the Jedi suppossed to be super tough, anyways?(!)

[Fury]

It's about game balance. The jedi are superior but if their sabers would cut through anything and kill everything in one slice, it wouldn't be fun anymore. Besides swords and vibro melee weapons are built using lightsaber resistant cortosis weave, there's your excuse.

[Su-tehp]

And since this is 4,000 years before A New Hope, with the Sith being equal in numbers to the Jedi (i.e. numbering in the thousands), it makes perfect sense for the Sith to be using cortosis weave in all their weapons and armor.

Hell, during the Great Hyperspace War, 1000 years before KOTOR, the Sith didn't even have lightsabers; they just had regular swords (i.e. non-vibroswords) imbued with cortosis weave. These swords could stand up to lightsbers and even deflect blaster bolts!

[Gloriano]

i think it's because they believed to Force so much in that time because Sith's in (KOTOR) are not orginal Sith's(orginal sith's were
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