[Stryke 9]

Yes, because that was the bloody point of the bloody exosuit (the fact that in real life she probably was moving the arms around is neither here nor there). It's rather not the point of simple body armor, and would be incredibly wasteful and troublesome (think motor burning out) unless you were basically wearing a tank, at which point you'd have quite a lot of benefit from the power-armor thing and would absolutely not be able to use it at all otherwise.

[Knight Templar]

Well that still doesn't acknowledge the part where she looks deathly thin even. But it really doesn't matter that much, does it?

[Nico]

Originally posted by Stryke 9

I think you're making the mistake of assuming "looking funky" is a desirable trait in military gear. It's not, if you're designing it around aesthetics and fashion it's gonna just look wrong, wrong, wrong, no matter what you do. There are very few things more utilitarian than the army, and if you're thinking about something other than what is needed for those clothes/vehicles/whatever, you've already ****ed up. Just having some exteraneous for no clearly stated reason, or making up half-assed excuses after the fact to defend the thing, isn't gonna help- you're not gonna convince anybody, and people will notice.

OK, ok... But what the hell are you talking about, if I may ask?

[Stryke 9]

That your "military" getups are almost entirely functionless. It's like taking the rotors off a helicopter because you think you could fit a rabbit hutch up on there instead. And, hence, look every bit as unthreatening, unconvincing, et al. Basically any effect you would concievably want with these renders you're doing is hobbled by the fact that, heck, what you're showing is skinny twerps wearing big metal plates on their chests. Except, you know, in a nicer fashion, except you insist on being obtuse. Next I shall have to bring out the "fix your model" coloring book. And no, you cannot have "Brick Red", it's mine.

[Nico]

"raises shoulders"
Ok, so I have a dude, that you label skinny ( let's agree n that or the schmilblick won't move ), and now his outfit sux. I look at your first post in the thread now... I wonder what made you post that, coz obviously everything is wrong with my mesh.
Ok, so I'm unlucky, with me, chestplates won't work, are unthretening and unconvincing ( who said it was metal? oh well ) ( well I'm not any famous gamer producer, granted ), the fact is doesn't have friggin sleeves to stop bullet makes him good as dead ( granted, he's not some famous actor in a war/sci-fie movie ). So he looks like a "she". Cool.
So, what's there to keep? The pants? I personnally think the bump maps aren't placed very well, so no?
So in reply to your second post, keep cool, I can't do character models either.

[Stryke 9]

Figured as much. Gotta personalize everything, right, Venom? Interesting to imagine what must go on in your head, auditory input "Um, you missed a light there"- Translate:"OMGWTFUF U IS TEH RETAERD".

Honestly. If you can't figure out the difference between "You're doing something wrong" and "you suck", then just say you don't want commentary in your threads. Or, better yet, don't post, as if you remove the whole self-improvement constructive-criticism end of things all that's really left is empty ego-pumping, and that'll fall flat as you'll never know if people genuinely like it or are just pretending because they don't wanna hurt your delicate feelings.


Suppose the problem with posting in geek forums is that the vast majority of y'all are just giant balls of overly defensive insecurity. Doesn't mean I'm gonna put up with **** because of it.

[Nico]

sorry to be rude, but when I read your prose:

Originally posted by Stryke 9
That your "military" getups are almost entirely functionless.[blablabla] Next I shall have to bring out the "fix your model" coloring book. And no, you cannot have "Brick Red", it's mine.

There's not much reasons to feel pretty optimistic. I do like your posts for one reason, at least: they exist. If you look at most of the threads I post in that particular forum, well... I guess I should post FS2 or Startrek stuff, I'd get more attention.
Other than that, if your posts were not so bloated with "peculiar effects so I will sound much cooler ( no offense, of course )", maybe I, poor french dude for whom english is not the native language ( people tend to forget that... ), might grasp the subtleties of your supposedly ( as guessed from that last post ) moderated critics.
Coz if I make a summary of your posts ( in no particular order ):

1)your "military" getups are almost entirely functionless [...] And, hence, look every bit as unthreatening, unconvincing, et al
-> outfit= no good

2)you're showing is skinny twerps wearing big metal plates on their chests.
-> guy= no good

3) etc, coz I don't feel like reading it all over again.

So yeah, I guess I'm obtuse, but sorry, I can't understand anything else from your posts than what is stated above.

[Stryke 9]

"Inappropriate for the situation" doesn't mean "no good". The most finely crafted car in the world won't make a salad. Not one you'd want to eat, anyway.

And with the first guy's costume, it's not even entirely that. It looks like a workable set of light armor that just needs more coverage to be really effective.

[Nico]

Ah well, I touched up the mesh ( I've redone completly the arms and changed the legs ), I've given him sleeves ( yeah!!!! ), simplified the chest plate, created a displacement map for the pants and sleeves, and Swooh still won't let me upload anything, so voila.

[Taristin]

...I liked it as is... Let's see the new one... (Ask An0n for hosting...Nico, he doesn't hate you too, does he?)

[Nico]

Don't think he hates me, but I already have all my stuff on swooh, I don't like having files spread on multiple servers, that's a pain to find stuff back later.

[Lightspeed]

I kinda like the original versions

[Nico]

Howdy, it worked, I suppose it was cuteftp acting up, in fact. anyway:

In Jungle camo flavour, for a change.

[mikhael]

The body looks good, Venom, but I don't like his face.

And why does the chick look like porn starlet? I don't remember any woman in the military looking like that.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by mikhael

I don't remember any woman in the military looking like that.

Well.... uhhh.... they should.

By the way, what's the oogly-boogly thingy in the back (of the second pic')? Contents of a garbage can gone badass?

[Stryke 9]

Is looking like a porn starlet supposed to be a bad thing?

[Nico]

Originally posted by mikhael
The body looks good, Venom, but I don't like his face.

But you don't even like Denise Richards face, so I would ask your advice for any mecha stuff, but when it comes to people's faces, mmh, don't think so
But it's just a standard, "default" grunt, he doesn't need a special face or anything, a generic one will do.

And why does the chick look like porn starlet? I don't remember any woman in the military looking like that.

maybe you'd remember one, you'd have even better memories from the army

Originally posted by Kamikaze
By the way, what's the oogly-boogly thingy in the back (of the second pic')? Contents of a garbage can gone badass?

That's a dead Mycoid, some kind of alien monster ( think Zergs to simplify stuff ):

( man, there's not a single mesh from this thread that was not shown up already before. Now I know why I don't get much replies: people don't even look at my stuff )

Originally posted by Stryke 9
...

So... D'you like it better?

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Is looking like a porn starlet supposed to be a bad thing?

Unless we're checking out porn, yeah, it is a bad thing. PornActionGirls (PAGs) annoy me unless there's a damn good reason for them. Eye candy isn't a good enough reason in my opinion.

[Nico]

As I probably won't get enough replies to justify a new thread, gonna post my new mesh here:




That's a dropship, carryall style, pretty huge ( 47.46 meters long, 49.36 meters wide, 20.66 meters tall w/o the landing gears. Scaled around a 1.80 meters tall dude, so the thing is really to scale, and now I realize how ridiculously big are the things in FS2... ).
Has enough fuel to do one "drop" and one "lift off" at full charge. Designed to carry up to 10 heavy class ArmS ( mechs - Gotta calculate how heavy it is ). Not exactly suited for pure atmospheric flight, but can do if needed, with a skilled enough pilot.
Is spaceborne, and will handle well in space.
Oh, it's called Cachalot ( sperm wale in french ).
It's just pics to show off the mesh, it needs a couple details done, and markings, so those quite unclear pics will have to do. I don't expect overly enthousiastic reactions ( if any ) over that thing anyway.

[Taristin]

....I don't like it...