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Offline Nico

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...time for showdown!


It's boring to just post updates of small pieces of maps, so  I try new skins at the same time ( I keep the old ones: blue one is Marine, green one is, herm, I called it assault, have no fitting name, the brown one is TacOps and this one SpecOps :p ) , and also different loadouts :p
This loadout isn't really fitted for that ship either, I'm gonna build lighter machineguns in stealth casing, and the same for missiles.
The nosegun, well, i's from another of my ships, just thrown in there to see how it'd look like.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2004, 11:18:57 am by 83 »
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Offline Unknown Target

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Green in space? I'd think military gray, or at least off white ;)

 

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I really like the way you've set up the hardpoint mounts, Venom.
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Offline Nico

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well thanks :)
seen from front, that would be:
..X.....00.....X..
......X.00.X......

( X being a weapon mount, and 0 the hull ). There's additional mounts on the wings, but it's to dock additional systems ( like the ammunition packs on the pics above ), not weapons.

UT: it's just for fun :p
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Offline Unknown Target

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Do your ships use fuel?

Try putting external tanks, then :D In convieniently easy-to-hit locations ;) :p

 

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Yeah, external drop tanks would be a good way to add details on the belly of the fighter. Also, a back-swept comms antenna.
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Offline Nico

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The way it works, it doesn't need that much fuel actually. Engines work by small bursts, they don't stay ignited.
And external anything is not the best for a stealth fighter ( I already forced myself not to put the weapons inside, so... )
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Offline Unknown Target

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Venom (Nico, whatever), if you're aiming for the "realistic" look of OS (what's that stand for?) I'm interested in knowing how you're gonna manage the space-fighter controls?

 

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I can't say only just amazing:) :yes:
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No need for fuel. Good.

Now what about heat radiator surfaces? You'll need some way of dumping heat.

You'll also need a sensor array, and a communications cluster, and perhaps a directional communications laser, if you want to do the stealth thing.
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I'm assuming that the sensors array is in the nose, that's why there's the blue glass there.
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killing threads is...well, what i do best.

 

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I'm assuming that the sensors array is in the nose, that's why there's the blue glass there.


I was guessing that was your basic avionics/sensor package up front. A stealth ship would likely have a more advanced passive sensor package aside from the standard one. Besides, I'm just trying to help Venom think of something to stuff to put on the belly.
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Offline Nico

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okok, i'm gonna reply to all that, but first, remember our discussoin yesterday, Mike? Enjoy :)

That thing is hellish :D
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Offline Nico

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ok, now, in chronological order:
UT: well, you see the verniers, there's enough of them of all the axis ( for exemple, bank left, you fire the two upward verniers on the left, and the two downward ones on the right. The onboard computer deals with how much thrust is needed to maintain balance ). Voila for the extrenal stuff. Now, pilot controls:
you have two pedals ( not rudder controls ) and two joysticks ( not one + gaz control ).
Pedals are for forward/backward thrust ( like in a car, save theres no gear to switch ). You push the right pedal, the ship will go forward. The longer you push, the more it'll accelerate. Release the pedal, it'll stop accelerating. The left  pedal is used to go in "reverse". Each pedal is of course also used to slow down from the opposed applied thrust.
The right joystick works the same as on a real life fighter
The right stick is for strafing up/down and left/right.
Torsion on the right joystick controls rolls.
The left joystick works the same as the pedals, the right one applies the same opposed thrust when you stop moving it, to counter inertia.


Voila.

Mike: heat radiators? yeah, why not, but why would it need that more than a real fighter? :)
I'll think about it, tho, coz I like how those things look like.
The things on the nose are sensors ( don't know what kind tho :p ), yeah. There's also one planed under the nose.
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Offline Unknown Target

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That's ALMOST exactly the same as what I envisioned for NOVA.

Except in NOVA, the two joysticks are not independent, but work together. The throttle control is the same as yours BUT, the joysticks are different. The dominant one can be switched (righties or lefties), but the dominant control controls pitch and roll. If you push one joystick forward and pull the other back, you'll yaw in the direction of the joystick that's pulled back. Pushing both joysticks to the same  side will side-slip in that direction. Pulling both to opposite sides will send you straight up, pushing both to the center will send you straight down.

 

Offline Nico

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But that means you can't do some moves? for exemple, going down while moving the nose up, well if I've understood well, that is.
ANyway, i've thought my method for a long, long time, and I think that's the best I can imagine. sounds logical and quite easy to me.
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Nice fire effect on the Volcano. That rocks. :D

The idea of heat radiator fins should be on ALL fighters in a real hard scifi universe.

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Pedals are for forward/backward thrust ( like in a car, save theres no gear to switch ). You push the right pedal, the ship will go forward. The longer you push, the more it'll accelerate. Release the pedal, it'll stop accelerating. The left  pedal is used to go in "reverse". Each pedal is of course also used to slow down from the opposed applied thrust.


If I had some pedals for my Cougar, I could set that exact system up right now. :D

Come to think of it, I could probably set up your left-hand stick too (so long as I assigned the actions to the microstick on the throttle)...

That's a pretty sensible way of setting things up, Venom. :)
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Offline Nico

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Thanks, as I said, I really thought this up for a long time.
The only thing I don't like that much is the torsion for bank left/right, but I can't see what else I could have done.
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Put this in your profile if you know someone who is fighting, has survived, or has died from an awp no scope.

just like seventies goofballs
he's waiting on last calls
well listen method man
'cause if you leave on the last line
don't leave on the ground kind
born just a little too slow