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Offline Sandwich

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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
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you know it would be funny to go through the dictionary and pic words at random that get someone banned for a week for saying, every couple of months a new one would be found when someone says the banned word 'tomato', I would be immune to this however (given I couldn't spell to save my life)


I find it ironic in the extreme that the only misspelled word in that whole post is "pic" instead of "pick", and that, I'm sure, is simply due to shortening and not lack of knowledge of how to spell it. :D
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
that'll be the last post that hapens in

anyway, I remembered another fed ship that can cloak, that one ship full of recrutes that was stuck behind enemy lines, and they went to take out that dominion ubbership, and got there asses handed to them
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
That would be the Valiant, but you are incorrect.  That ship, while it was a Defiant class, did not mount a cloak.  In fact, we also don't know if the replacement Defiant that DS9 got after the original was destroyed, had a cloak.  I'd bet on no, but considering their alliance with the Romulans at that point, you never know.  I'd personally like to hear that the new alliance rescinded the ban on Feds developping cloaks, so they could haul the Phase-cloak tested originally on the U.S.S. Pegasus, which was probably lying quietly in some lab, or being worked on by Section 31, back into service to be "field tested" by the new Defiant.  Now that'd be cool!!

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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
Are their any current solutions with applying a cloak or movable parts (Bird of Prey wings or Voyager Nacelles) on these models? I'm aware of cloak difficulties, but I read that a month ago. Any change? I'm slowly getting the hang of Fred, is there any sexp's that could do either yet?

 

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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
IIRC it works only on OGL, but not sure

 

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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
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Originally posted by Bobboau
you know it would be funny to go through the dictionary and pic words at random that get someone banned for a week for saying, every couple of months a new one would be found when someone says the banned word 'tomato', I would be immune to this however (given I couldn't spell to save my life)

this month's word should be 'turrent' :drevil:
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
What about 'moist'?
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Are their any current solutions with applying a cloak or movable parts (Bird of Prey wings or Voyager Nacelles) on these models? I'm aware of cloak difficulties, but I read that a month ago. Any change? I'm slowly getting the hang of Fred, is there any sexp's that could do either yet?

Cloaking

Cloaking is currently only available under OGL as previously stated, and only functions by means of cheats, so no sexps to do it.  Its probably on the list that coders will try to make D3D-capable and mission controlable once 3.6 is out the door.  We'd need not only sexps, but new HUD art to include it as part of the ETS, rules for its energy consumption, an extra subsystem for the list, a box in FRED to allow or disallow a ship from using the cloak.  This is probably best implimented only on the player ship, since the AI won't know how to use it, and coders hate altering or creating AI... not that I hold it against them.  All in all, with the exception of the player ship, cloaking will have to be exclusively controlled through scripting.  Finally, we'll also need an addition to the control section so a cloaking key can be mapped into use.

Moving Parts

While this is possible, it is somewhat impracticle.  Right now, its only supported under rotating subsystems.  You'd have to make each wing as a separate rotating segment, but which is missing the other side.  I know that rotating subsystems don't have to be ballanced, because you can knock out one of the rotating blades of a Shivan Comm. node and the other end of it will continue rotating.  The only problem with that is that the subsystem will attempt to continue rotating through the rest of the hull, rather that stopping at the raised, lowered, or mid position as the case may require.  Now, there are sexps that tell a subsystem to start rotating or stop rotating, so you'd have to use a series of sexps to tell the segment to start moving, and then stop moving when it gets to the desired position, which would require experimentation to know how many seconds to leave between each action.  What we need to complete this is a sexp to tell a rotating subsystem to reverse its rotation, which may not be possible... I don't know what the rules are.  The only light at the end of the tunnel to make this an automated feature, is Fe2... if it actually gets done.

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What about 'moist'?


A word.... by any other poster.... would be so innocent...
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
Mmm... :doubt:

  

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OMG!!!

Galaxy, Akira nad Vor'Cha in one pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Add a Romulan Warbirs and a Galaxy-X and I will be in heaven!

EDIT: For those who don't know - THIS is the Galaxy-X!
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
Warbirds were not in this battle "Sacrifice of angels". Galaxy-x is not even in this timeframe. I REALLY REALLY want to kill the person who made the schematics Pneumonic81 followed for his Galaxy and Galaxy-X. I finally found the schematics he followed and it is DEAD WRONG. I've watched TNG enough to spot a horrendous model.

Don't get me wrong, Pneumonic did an excellent job modeling those ships. Its his source material that I question, NO, HATE. I'm pretty sure getting blueprints is not a problem, but finding the RIGHT one is a different story considering the number of them out there on the web. Hell, even the Galaxy-X added components are OFF a bit.

I will be in the process of modelling my own, based on Scotchy's more accurate Galaxy. I'm trying to find some canon blueprints for the Galaxy-X right now. Once I get the bulk of the Federation fleet out of the way, I'll work on their future ships. Right now all my effort is getting some fighter classes in the fleet. The Runabout is my current project.

 

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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
I always thought that the Galaxy-X specific textures were rather ugly. And someone come up with a better name before it's released.....
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
was Galaxy x the ship form the last TNG, where captain blokey ended in some time paradox, um, affair ?
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Yeah, "All Good Things". Picard got chucked around through time, Q shows up and there's some Uber-neat space combat near the end as well.

 

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Heh. I'm guessing in the grand scene of things, not to mention the movies, Pickard's Galaxy x was quietly dropped in favour of the Soverign (?).
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
That was a big mistake. If I remember the last episode corectly, it took out a Klingon Negh'Var with one hit from the Phaser Cannon (the first shot tore trough the shields and the ship...the second two were not needed)

C2  from BCfiles has the best looking Galaxy-X model out there.
Allso, you can find the blueprints at www.staryards.com
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"Its the Klingons sir, they're here......"
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Heh. I'm guessing in the grand scene of things, not to mention the movies, Pickard's Galaxy x was quietly dropped in favour of the Soverign (?).


Well when the Enterprise-D crashed into Viridian 3 in Generations that theory went pretty much out of the window...

 

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Well...it's still not completely out of the question...

The federation stil has Galaxy Class ships that will need re-fitting in the future...and the Galaxy-X refit was so radical, that it is in fact a new class (something like the Klingon D-7 cruiser and the new class...)

Anyway, you CAN'T make the ship cannon, or the gameplay will suffer.
Who would want to pilot a ship that can blast a Borg Cube with ease...you'll have to de-grade that forward gun...But increase it's power output then
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The front gun is massively overpowered - it was clearly for that climax scene and that alone... hard to say how it would fare against a cube (there'll always be technobabble to explain why it won't work or whatever). But the idea behind the ship was nice - Certainly a "cheap fix" upgrade for the Galaxy class line of ships.