[Beowulf]

To those of you wanting the full version of the apache clip, I've found it. Not sure if its been posted before, but here it is:

http://nsys.web1000.com/movies/apache.zip

Another interesting clip, most of you might have seen, of an AC-130 gunship deployed in Afghanistan. Really amazing.

http://nsys.web1000.com/movies/ac-130u_gunship_video_lo.wmv

Enjoy.


~Beowulf

[Beowulf]

No one has anything to say after seeing the real thing?

[Zarax]

Welcome to the real world.

[Bobboau]

I think we already saw it I think

[Zeronet]

Yeh, i sure will 'enjoy' watching ppl die.

[demon442]

Saw it on the news when it came out.  Old news.

Now the AC130 clip, i'll have to see later.

[Gloriano]

those should be Illegal because there is peoples who enjoy's seeing peoples die

[Unknown Target]

If you looked at it, when the first guy was shot, he kind of "exploded".
Sick

[J3Vr6]

Looks like they were dumping their weapons so they wouldn't get busted for having them.  But then they move up the tractor to block the view while one of them begins to unwrap something by the tire.

[Beowulf]

Woah. The only reason I posted it was because the one that is EVERYWHERE on the internet is the shortened version. As such, everyone says it was wrong to fire upon them. This one clearly show them moving weaponry, particularly anti-tank/anti-air weaponry.

I guess I didn't mean "enjoy" as in get pleasure out of, just in respect to comparing the two clips, the shortened one and the long one. I certainly don't get any excitement or arousal out of seeing people die, but I am glad they are dead, otherwise Americans or coalition forces could be dead in their place.

~Beowulf.

[Odyssey]

Originally posted by Beowulf
Americans or coalition forces could be dead in their place.

[color=cc9900]And?[/color]

[diamondgeezer]

Jesus H Christ. If you hate the west so much go and live in ****ing Iran or something

[Beowulf]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Jesus H Christ. If you hate the west so much go and live in ****ing Iran or something

Are you talking to me? I mean, if those Iraqis weren't dead, Americans or Coalition forces could be dead in their place--a bad thing.

I'm glad those Iraqis were creamed!


~Beowulf.

[Rictor]

Its all so sterile and bloodless. I can see how it would be easy to take a human life when all you see is a little white dot, and then an explosion. No blood, no guts, no screams, no smell of burning flesh. Its like playing Starcraft....

[demon442]

Think about that next time you play GTA3...

[redsniper]

:shivers: kinda scary when you think about it. Sort of reminds me of MGS2 and all the talk about VR training desensitizing you and how Raiden's feelings sort of parallel the player's (he feels no remorse for killing people, 'cuz it's just a game, right? right?)

@Odyssey: WTF is wrong with you? you wouldn't rather have terrorists dead than soldiers?

[diamondgeezer]

No, Wolfy, I wasn't talking to you

[Fineus]

Can we leave off the flaming eachother - killing is wrong no matter what, but this isn't an ideal world. If you want a little food for thought - go watch Three Kings, it has a great little angle that shows that despite what people do, and who they might work for or carry out to survive - they might well be normal men and woman with a family... not just meat for killing.

[Odyssey]

[color=cc9900]What Kalfireth said. It doesn't make a damn who dies, they were still a living being and it was still wrong, whether they're carrying thousands of pounds worth of high-tech equipment or an AK47. I don't see the point in making a distinguishment. Sorry if that came across wrongly in my last post.[/color]

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
Can we leave off the flaming eachother - killing is wrong no matter what, but this isn't an ideal world. If you want a little food for thought - go watch Three Kings, it has a great little angle that shows that despite what people do, and who they might work for or carry out to survive - they might well be normal men and woman with a family... not just meat for killing.

But in this case, there iraqi insurgents, practically terrorists because they target their own people, who are quite simply, evil. Thus, i'd much rather they died, than british soldiers, who are trying to help this country, not hinder it. Though of course, i'd much rather they were imprisoned, but that is not practical in these circumstances.