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Offline diamondgeezer

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So here's the thing. I'm looking to take up some sort of arse kicking in order to impress the admirality in July. The Yellow Pages suggests the avilability of three possible paths to enlightenment - karate, kickboxing and tae kwon do. Since I know precisely zip about any of them, I was after some advice from anyone here who may have studied them.

And before anyone tells me jeet kun do is teh uber sweet, I'm limiting my options to what's actually available in my area :nod:

 

Offline Solatar

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Tai Bo all the way dude...


No, seriously, from what I've experienced Karate and Tae Kwon Do are pretty much the same concept (one from Japan, one from Korea I think) and I've never kickboxed.

I'd go with Karate or Tae Kwon Do.

 

Offline vyper

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Tae Kwon Do seems to have a following at my uni, thats mainly by arseholes but I may be stereotyping based on the few i know. I intend to take up Judo when uni returns. Out of your options I'd take kickboxing - mainly 'cos the last person I met who did it was a chick.

I'll just shurrup now.
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Offline Gloriano

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Kung Fu maybe it's bit hard dunno


Karate fits everyone I think but it's kinda cool


kickboxing: seen it sometimes looked cool
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Offline Grey Wolf

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I actually prefer fencing and kendo, at least in theory. Of course, I'm not sure if those options are available to you.
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I've always wanted to take fencing, shame it isn't popular here in the US (at least where i am)

 

Offline vyper

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Yeh fencing would be good but its not very easy to find a club for in Glasgow.
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KRAV MAGA

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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by vyper
Yeh fencing would be good but its not very easy to find a club for in Glasgow.


Strathclyde uni has one...even if you can't find one at Cally (it is Cally you're at, innit?), you might be able to wangle your way into it.

Think NUS rules would let you - might have to reggie with the sport union though, not sure.

 

Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]Ok, from the top:

Karate: You got Shotokan and wado ryu, two different 'schools' for want of a better description. Karate attempts to utilise force to defend against force. It's reasonably effective if you've a decent build and can take some knocks. Lots of straight, hard punching and kicking.

Kickboxing: Split into two main groups, sport kickboxing and combat kickboxing. Combat can be very effective if you spend the time to condition yourself (shins especially) it's a pretty realistic fighting art. Knees, elbows, shins etc. expect to get hard nuts practicing it. Sport isn't taken as a serious martial art though a practitoner would be able to take on the majority of Joe "drunk 'n disorderly" Public.

Tae kwon do: Korean, as someone else mentioned. Extremely popular due to it's flashyness. Like kickboxing split into sport and combat styles. 70% emphasis on legs, 30% everything else. Flexability is key and if you have bad knees forget about it. Skilled poponenets of the art are the guys doing 540 roundhouse kicks, axe kicks and anything else you'd see Van Damme do in one of his movies. Schools are everywhere so it's easy to find one, especially at universities from what I've seen. Sport is akin to the kickboxing form, in the sport version if you turn from your opponent they stop attacking. How often does that happen in the street.


I'm 6 foot two, 9 and a half stone max., not particularly flexable but fast and reasonably agile. I can't use brute force as I'd get my butt handed to me so I use wing chun, a fast, compact form of kung fu. It  relies on redirection of force to make the opponent go where you want them to. Pretty popular (most poular form of kung fu) and relatively fast to learn the basics. No kicks above the waist (generally) and a lot of concentration on handwork. Pretty darn effective when utilised by a reasonably skilled practitioner. You are unlikely to pull a muscle even if not warmed up hence it's good for streetfighting and general tussles.

I'm obviously biased as I think Wing Chun is the most effective form but if you want to learn general neck kicking skills then pretty much any competent teacher of any of the styles will be able to teach you good, basic defense. I'd try to stay away from 'hard' styles (using force against force, victor is usually the stronger specimen) like those you have mentioned but to be honest any of them will take time and dedication.

BTW this is a pretty simple description of all of the arts so I kinda ommitted some details though the basic points are good.
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Offline mikhael

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I did fencing in college. Its one of those "hey this looks easy.. OH MY GOD CAN I JUST RUN A MARATHON PLEASE" sports. It tricks you. I had an insane amount of fun though.

On topic, I'd say go for karate or tae-kwan do, with a preference toward tae-kwan (there's usually a greater emphasis on overall physical fitness with tae-kwan do). Failing that, Tae-Kwan Leep is always great fun.

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Offline redsniper

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Tae Kwon Do. I took it back in the day, and it's pretty cool 'cuz you do all the cool kicks and stuff but you also learn to fight with a fist, unlike karate where you do a lot of open handed stuff.
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Offline Zarax

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Karate rules, helps forging a pretty great waay of thinking, and when used the right way it's pretty effective.
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Offline vyper

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Originally posted by pasti
two words:

KRAV MAGA

http://www.kravmaga.com/
run.....
:)


Now that looks good.
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Offline Carl

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screw them all. stick to guns.
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Offline vyper

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Originally posted by aldo_14


Strathclyde uni has one...even if you can't find one at Cally (it is Cally you're at, innit?), you might be able to wangle your way into it.

Think NUS rules would let you - might have to reggie with the sport union though, not sure.


How much is it to join ur sports union?
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Offline aldo_14

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Originally posted by vyper


How much is it to join ur sports union?


Not sure.... think it may be 15 squid.  You'd probably have to ask 'em.

Edit - it's gone up a fair bit, now £20.  Bit pricey, that.........

http://www.sportsunion.strath.ac.uk/suweb2/welcome.htm
« Last Edit: February 01, 2004, 08:05:40 am by 181 »

 

Offline vyper

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Your sports union's site... its... informative... I'm not used to this! :eek:
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Maeg has summed up the arts pretty well.

However, I recommend you check out ALL of those classes for a lesson or three. See which one you click with. See which instructor you feel you can trust the most and would like teaching you. See which club boasts the most impressive and friendly senior students. Having a good learning environment and teacher is definitely just as important as the style you learn.

There is also a trend for clubs in Taekwondo and Karate to be called "McDojo" - these schools offer substandard training and in turn swallow your wallet with money for expensive and frequent gradings, training fees, and equipment costs.

So don't think style only. Think instructor, think cost, think environment.

My humble two pence.

Jack

 

Offline Impurial

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"McDojo?" :eek: The Golden Arches have a new franchise?
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