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Offline Raptor

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Reply #100 on: April 15, 2004, 12:16:18 pm
Well, at least I've got something right:)

Some more screenies.

Detail behind the dorsal plasma turret.


Top of the rear engine block.


The Aeolus can now give you 'The Evil Eye':drevil:


I do plan to remove the windows, but I think I'll wait till I've UV mapped it, so the windows on the texture are alined with the model plan.



This last one...rethinking side turret setup...option A or B? (Ignore the different colours).
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #101 on: April 15, 2004, 12:23:32 pm
:wtf:

Point on top, or flat top? Is that what you're on about?  I doubt anyone'll really notice much difference.
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Reply #102 on: April 15, 2004, 02:29:44 pm
Point on top
 

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Reply #103 on: April 15, 2004, 02:37:31 pm
nm
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Offline Raptor

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Reply #104 on: April 16, 2004, 03:43:30 am
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Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
:wtf:

Point on top, or flat top? Is that what you're on about?  I doubt anyone'll really notice much difference.


Yea, that's basically it.
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Offline Janos

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Reply #105 on: April 16, 2004, 05:24:12 am
Who cares? :p

Flat on top.
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #106 on: April 16, 2004, 01:06:22 pm
Flat-top.

Dunno why - just cos.
 

Offline Trivial Psychic

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Reply #107 on: April 16, 2004, 01:07:50 pm
Stop me if I'm wrong, but aren't those turrets supposed to be those ones that stick out a bit from the hull and slope upwards, with the six (or so) holes on the front.  Take a look at the original and you'll see what I mean.
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Reply #108 on: April 16, 2004, 03:45:04 pm
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Stop me if I'm wrong, but aren't those turrets supposed to be those ones that stick out a bit from the hull and slope upwards, with the six (or so) holes on the front.  Take a look at the original and you'll see what I mean.


Yea, these are the replacements.  I HATED those side guns.  I hated the design, the mapping, everything about them.  I'm a firm beliver that the design of a turret should reflect the type of weapon it's fitted with, were possible.

They (V) used the same turets on the Hecate.  That's partly why at some point I'll do a re-turreted version of the Hecate, replacing those silly, ugly blocks for some REAL turrets.

(rant over)

I'm surprised no-one commented on the third screenie.  Guess it's completely clear, eh?
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Reply #109 on: April 16, 2004, 11:50:26 pm
I'm a little more concerned that your turrets on these locations resemble more beam cannons that flak turrets, which they are supposed to be IIRC... or are these just the "destroyed" version of the turret sub-objects?
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Offline Raptor

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Reply #110 on: April 17, 2004, 05:46:40 am
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Originally posted by Trivial Psychic
I'm a little more concerned that your turrets on these locations resemble more beam cannons that flak turrets, which they are supposed to be IIRC... or are these just the "destroyed" version of the turret sub-objects?


In the original tbl,one of the guns was a flak gun yes, but the other was an AAA.

I know they both look a little beamish, but then again, that could be said for nearly all the turrets on the Fenris/Lev, the Deimos, etc...

It's hard coming up with a decent looking side mounted turret that doesn't look like a beam port in shape.  Guess I'd better texture those two, maybe then the differance will be clearer.

While I'm at it, I'll also redo the texturing on the main sections of the dorsal/ventral turrets (You might have noticed that the screenies above don't have textures on them).  I messed up the texturing.  Might alter shape a little too.
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #111 on: April 17, 2004, 06:07:45 am
IIRC you CAN do multipart turrets on the sides of a ship as well as top and bottom - they just need to be aligned to the XYZ axes.
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Offline Setekh

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Reply #112 on: April 17, 2004, 06:26:10 am
Dorsal turret looks nice and sleek. :) I say point on top for the turrets, btw. ;)
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Offline Pilot Of The US

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Reply #113 on: April 17, 2004, 03:42:08 pm
Hmm, does this mean that someone could redo the side turrets on the Deimos so it looks more like the one on the boxart.

Or is this just possible for single barrel rotating turrets, and not twin or triple ones.

Because i belive the Deimos was supposed to have a couple of twin barrel rotating side turrets.
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Reply #114 on: April 17, 2004, 03:58:41 pm
IIRC it doesn't work.  Multiparts must pivot around the vertical axis, no exceptions.  I don't know where Sandwich got that.
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Reply #115 on: April 17, 2004, 04:40:56 pm
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Originally posted by StratComm
IIRC it doesn't work.  Multiparts must pivot around the vertical axis, no exceptions.  I don't know where Sandwich got that.


Are you sure they cannot be oriented along the horizontal? I seem to recall that they cannot be at an angle to any of the main axes.

IIRC Ace did up a model platform ages ago that was "L" shaped, with multipart turrets on both parts.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

Offline aldo_14

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Reply #116 on: April 17, 2004, 04:56:45 pm
I think I had a single part flak turret on a (very) old model which rotated on the x-axis (i.e. was side mounted) to fire..... but I'm sure that multiparts need to have the barrel-part orientated straight along the y-axis.
 

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Reply #117 on: April 18, 2004, 05:37:25 am
Just to let you guys know, I've redone the Dorsla/Ventral turrets for the Aeolus.  Any other FS2 era craft I do would use these.


Twin Flak to the left, triple plasma to the right.  All the Parts are interchangeable;) All parts are now UVmapped to boot.  Hopefully I won't mess these ones up like I did with the last set.:nervous:

Concerning the Aeolus, I'm seriously considering removing that cut away above the forward engines.  I'm not happy with it.


...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #118 on: April 18, 2004, 06:17:45 am
How about using the triple plasma turret on the top/bottom of the Orion class destroyer, because IIRC, i saw them on the Orion which was on the FreeSpace: Silent Threat boxart. aswell as in FS2.

Hey sandwich, you still got that L-shaped platform. Id like to have a look at it.
 

Offline Nico

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Reply #119 on: April 18, 2004, 06:33:10 am
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Originally posted by Sandwich
IIRC you CAN do multipart turrets on the sides of a ship as well as top and bottom - they just need to be aligned to the XYZ axes.


No, stratcomm is right. Technically, you CAN, but they'll completly mess up while rotating.
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