[adwight]

We always have the oil in Alaska if we ever need a supply.  That's another thing our damn government doesn't care about.  Gas prices.

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by adwight
We always have the oil in Alaska if we ever need a supply.  That's another thing our damn government doesn't care about.  Gas prices.

Or.... you could just cut down power and gas use for the sake of the rest of the world and yourself?

More efficient cars = Less petrol use = less demand = cheaper prices

[Solatar]

Don't we pay taxes on gasoline? To the government?

[Rictor]

Originally posted by aldo_14


Or.... you could just cut down power and gas use for the sake of the rest of the world and yourself?

More efficient cars = Less petrol use = less demand = cheaper prices

Heresy! Everyone knows that

a)The world's oil supply is unlimited.

and

b)Americans are the only ones who really deserve it. The rest of the world is either terrorirsts or terrorist appeasers.

Besides, don't they use donkey's or something? I can't just "use less gas" like you suggest. If I did that, I would no longer be able to have the biggest, baddest SUV on the road. And that's a sacrfice I'm simply unwilling to make. I mean, if my car can't run over a standard size road blockade, then whats the point of even driving? My kids will be too ashamed to show their face at school, knowing that other kid's moms are richer and own a more luxurious car. I'm sure you understand.

And if you don't, just what precisely the hell are you going to do about it?

Thought so.

[elorran]

Fortunately for the rest of us mistakes of nature like the above poster don't happen all to often

[Knight Templar]

Fortunately, I'm not a mom, so I don't have to worry about those kinds of thing.

[Drew]

Originally posted by Solatar
Don't we pay taxes on gasoline? To the government?

about half of the cost of gas is taxes

Originally posted by Rictor


Heresy! Everyone knows that

a)The world's oil supply is unlimited.

For the time being, we really dont have much to worry about. The world oil reserves are largely intact, some regions havnt even been drilled yet. WIth new tech like hybrid engins (i see 1 out of 15  cars on the streets around here) in about 50 years cars will be getting like 80mpg.  

b)Americans are the only ones who really deserve it. The rest of the world is either terrorirsts or terrorist appeasers.

Besides, don't they use donkey's or something? I can't just "use less gas" like you suggest. If I did that, I would no longer be able to have the biggest, baddest SUV on the road. And that's a sacrfice I'm simply unwilling to make. I mean, if my car can't run over a standard size road blockade, then whats the point of even driving? My kids will be too ashamed to show their face at school, knowing that other kid's moms are richer and own a more luxurious car. I'm sure you understand.
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Thats one of the most pointless things i have ever heard you say.  Try using more objective information and less subjective, biased, sarcasm. Make a point for gods sake.

Gas prices effectivly keep the SUV population in check. On the west coast it costs like $2.60 per gallon, incidentilay(sp) when my freind went to san diego he (literaly) didnt see one large size SUV. Included with other living expenses (siginificantly higher on the west coast), normal people dont have that kind of money. But if someone actually has the money to out $80 bucks per fill; who can sblame them for what they do with there money. of money.    On the east coast we have to pay like 1.60 + the cost of living here is significantly lower and there is a massive SUV population. ( of families *need* the room)

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by Rictor
/is replaying Deus Ex

Echelon IV was never shut down, just got upgraded into Daedelus. Of course, we don't have to worry about the governement spying on us anymore, 'cause after Daedelus merged with Icarus, and subsequently became Helios, it was promptly destroyed.

...errr, yeah.

Was that serious, or were you referring to Greek myth?

[Rictor]

Sometimes I make a point using logical arguements backed up by credible proof. And sometimes I just like to bull****. I try to make it obvious which is which, though perhaps I ought to try a bit harder? Eh, see. Thats me ranting and/or being sarcastic and/or making broad generalizations to illustrate a point. Collecticely known as bull****ting.

As for the number of SUVs and Minivans on the road, I would guess that where I live, around 50% of vehicles are either SUVs, Minivans or pick-up trucks. I could reasonably see that number jumping to maybe 70% in 6-8 years. And with both the Clinton and Bush administrations failing to impose more efficient fuel economy regulations on the auto industry, I don't see the amount of gas used by these types of vehicles miraculously dropping overnight.

As for hybrids, it is more than likely that their technological progress and acceptance into society is intentionally being thwarted by parties with a vested interest in maintaining oil as the car fuel of choice. With oil being the single biggest industry in the world (as I recall), it would take a real push by someone, to counter the combined influecne of the US government, the oil industry, the auto industry and the governments (and lobby groups) of various oil-rich countries.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Was that serious, or were you referring to Greek myth?

Dead serious man. The stuff that going on, you would not believe.

[Grey Wolf]

I wasn't quite sure, considering the crazy things they name government programs. The "*snicker*" kind of gave it away though.

[mikhael]

Man, I want a Toyota Prius SO bad. I drove one of those babies during the week I was in Florida... I filled up the tank ONCE and drove like 600miles (and it wasn't even empty when I filled it, I was just taking it back to the rental agency). They're quiet, accelerate and ride well, they corner beautifully and they're pretty close to one of the most comfortable cars ever.

I am not believe, for a moment, that the rest of you didn't realize that Rictor was being sarcastic. You guys been drinking?

For the record, people: we pay very little for our gas. As I recall, Japan and Australia pay nearly four times what Americans pay for gasoline. In fact, the only countries I was ever in where the gas prices were LOWER than the US were Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and Oman. A cookie to whomever can guess why.

[Grey Wolf]

No, not drinking, just out of it.

Meanwhile, I don't quite get the obsession with SUVs, especially considering the vast majority on the market. You all want cars based on minivans with less interior space and worse mileage?

[Ace]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
No, not drinking, just out of it.

Meanwhile, I don't quite get the obsession with SUVs, especially considering the vast majority on the market. You all want cars based on minivans with less interior space and worse mileage?

Because they're like... so like... awesome... and the Jones have one... and like I soooo can't let them out do me. Mrs. Jones is like such a poser, she has four American flags and like that whole "I won't be here during the rapture" bumper sticker. I need three crosses and like a bald eagle sticker, that is like sooo much more sophisticated than she is.

Seriously though, a fuel efficient diesel seems like a good idea to me. Afterall, you can put biodiesel in it and a few gas stations around here are providing that.

[mikhael]

Hybrid Biodiesel. Even better.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Ace


Because they're like... so like... awesome...  

Aren't they just big, fat and unuseful? I don't like monospaces, but I'd rather have one than those big, stupid things. Coz it's big too and you actually have room IN it

For the record, oil in France, about 1€ /L

[mikhael]

For all you undereducated sorts, that works out to about 4€/gallon, or US$4.93/gallon. I pay US$1.75 MAX. American don't pay hardly ANYTHING for their gas. We've got absolutely no leg to stand on when we whine about the cost of gas.

I'd like to the US gas prices spike up to $5/gallon. Make those morons in their Hummer H2s  (13mpg highway, 11mpg city) REALLY pay for what they do to my air.

[Drew]

ever driven a Honda CRV? My (dad) bought one of those; it gets like 30(somthin 30-36 maybe)mpg gots great handling, small rollover risk etc. + theres a foldout picnic table in the trunk

[Zarax]

Originally posted by mikhael
For all you undereducated sorts, that works out to about 4€/gallon, or US$4.93/gallon. I pay US$1.75 MAX. American don't pay hardly ANYTHING for their gas. We've got absolutely no leg to stand on when we whine about the cost of gas.

I'd like to the US gas prices spike up to $5/gallon. Make those morons in their Hummer H2s  (13mpg highway, 11mpg city) REALLY pay for what they do to my air.

Not sure, but didn't president Carter try to rise the fuel prices "some time ago"?
You won't get something similar from bush, this is granted...

[Liberator]

Europeans only pay so much for gas because of your VATs and you let the gas companies get away with raping you.  You should investigate them for gouging.

BTW, I am never going to drive a Rice Rocket.  If you can show me something that I can drive in comfortably for long periods of time(I'm 6'3" and weigh 300 lbs.), has good power and can survive a wreck without being turned inside out, I'll consider it.