[Nico]

It really needs custom maps, the originals are too blurry

[jdjtcagle]

I can hadle it on my card perfectly, but I just hope this doesn't stop us from making more of them

Jdj, alas, the cure for low frame rates is the same as it always has been. Faster video card, which, obviously not everyone can afford. You could always turn off some of the more time-consuming effects?

[IceFire]

Yay for high poly ships!  That looks fantastic!

[Setekh]

Tin Can, you're only running at 60Hz refresh? Up that thing to 100 or something, it'll be much better for your eyes.

[Kazan]

tin can: turn off VSync

[Ashrak]

a bit TOO high poly

[StratComm]

It looks good, but...

Bounding box?

EDIT: That's a subsystem, nevermind.  But why is the engine subsystem on the front of the conning tower?

[Taristin]

Some of us don't have monitors that support refresh rates that high.

[Rictor]

Oh dear, I just know I'll get lynched for this, but I...barely notice the difference. Not to insult your work KARMA, I think its the textures. I remember you posted an flat textured WIP once and the little details were much more noticeable.

Well, bravo. I hope to see many more great high-poly ships in the future.

[Unknown Target]

Methinks some self-casting shadows would really help make the new changes noticable

but not until after 3.6

[Carl]

Originally posted by Vasudan Admiral

brings a tear to your eye, don't it?

God created specular highlights with the fenris in mind.

[Taristin]

Truly. There has never been a more beautiful sight.

[Ace]

I hope that the default ship won't have the nameplate, it'd be odd to have everything with "GTC Orff" on it

[IncendiaryLemon]

Its rather fantastic Karma

[Fineus]

Before:


After:


Who'd have thought it....

[KARMA]

nice shot!:)
and again...nice work VA!

btw.. I admit I hoped in a lower performance hit: IIRC those who tested the model when it was untextured reported good framerates (are you sure the textures are 8bit?), I can only suppose that high res textures + the various map processes can kill framerates with an high poly model. This force me to reconsider some of my precedent beliefs.

Also, it would be many times better with custom, better maps than those ones, you could highlight some details like the extrusions between the head and the vertical body and some other stuff, but I don't have time to do em, sorry, and knowing this I tryed to build the mesh (using more modelling time) so that it could be possible to almost use the original maps.

I think that part of the problems comes from the spec effects btw. Oh, it's nice, but from that pic in the neb, it seem that the dark parts are totally non specular (except the sides of some extrusions). The specmaps for this model should be modifyed: the dark parts should be less specular than the normal plating, but it is important, with high detailed ships, to see a lot of light transitions, to make more evident the different details. Also, specmaps can be used (from what I've seen in other shots) to simulate some sort of bump-map like effect, which would be extremely cool in some areas.
I'd like to work on this personally, but unfourtunately spec doesn't work on my system, so I can't be of help in this.

There's another thing btw: haveing used many submodels, the model has less shading problems, but nonetheless it'd be benefit of few smoothgroups, where there are indents and hard edges, because there are some (minimal) shading distorsions in some points

[Singh]

*sees fenris*
*jaw drops
*picks up jaw
*jaw drops again
*just.........stares :shock:

[Singh]

Originally posted by Carl


God created specular highlights with the fenris in mind.

Soooooooo true. LONG LIVE THE FENRIS!!
*quites down and goes to his corner, still staring at the fenris.

[WMCoolmon]

Looks nice

Too bad it utterly kills my FPS ingame.

[Vasudan Admiral]

wowsers, lotsa replys

Tin Can: i was running on a GF FX 5200, which isn't great, but was as cheap as i could find, and has worked perfectly well so far. a 9600 XT will most definitly run it

jdjtcagle: there will certainly be more high poly ships. i'm working on a lucifer and triton atm, (the lucifer won't be done until after TI's Operation Raganorak is done) and i have plans to do a fair few others over time
the only thing is, they won't be quite this detailed in future. still much better than the originals, but not 6000+ polys combined with four high res textures, as i don't think even the HTL engine will handle too many of these sorts of ships.

Nico: i used the FS1 textures as bases here, and they're pretty large.

Ashrak: quite possibly a bit too high, but the main slowdown here is that there are multiple textures, since i don't know of a way to combine them into one texture other than baking, and that would kill the look anyway, since it shrinks the parts a lot

StratComm: the bounding box works fine, but i have no idea why [v] put the engine in the conning tower.

Rictor: look at Kalfireth's comparrison. still no difference?

Unknown Target: propper shadows like that would most certainly look fantastic, but combine them with bump mapping, vertex lighting, glow points, glowmaps, spec maps, evironment mapping, high res textures, HTL models and all the other things that go on during gameplay and......well, you can probably guess what would happen. we need quantum computers.

Ace: either replace the nameplate in modview with a puregreen texture or "invisable", or make a custom nameplate for any fenris' in your campaign. that was the whole idea of it

KARMA: well, i've gotta work on TI, so i don't really want to work on this anymore. i can upload the final scene if you or anyone else wants to fix those bits with the smoothing, but it's not really noticeable ingame. the performance hit is because of the 4 high res textures as far as i can tell. and i've only tested it with PCX, not JPG, so i can't say what speeds will be like with them.

WMCoolmon: what card do you have? for all those having severe performance hits, it may be an idea to set the second LOD to kick in much earlier than it used to in the table, so that you only see the really high detail areas when really close.