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Offline Gloriano

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nice,:yes:

Depris looks good

anyway it's looks awesome ship
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Offline Rictor

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Nice work. Your old version looks like LOD 1. :D:D

 

Offline aldo_14

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Does this mean you're back modding then , Venico?

 

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make the pilot a peice of debris :D
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Offline Deepblue

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Nicos future response: "Read the thread, then post."

 

Offline Nico

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Would I be wrong if I did so?
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No you wouldn't. They made that very same comment 4 times now. :doubt:
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Offline Setekh

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Whoa... at last. What a mammoth effort. Took 17 pages, but it was so worth it... for us, anyway. :D

Great going, Venom. You still the man. ;)
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Offline Nico

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9 pages here :p
The ship is now 17 meters long, wich is exactly half the original one, as well as about the same size as the Perseus.
Which renders what I said to Thunder wrong. So to balance the thing, well, it'll have 8 gunpoints, but each group of 4 will be dedicated to different weapons ( I fancy the lower guns being able to carry only disrupting guns :p )
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Originally posted by Nico
9 pages here :p
The ship is now 17 meters long, wich is exactly half the original one, as well as about the same size as the Perseus.
Which renders what I said to Thunder wrong. So to balance the thing, well, it'll have 8 gunpoints, but each group of 4 will be dedicated to different weapons ( I fancy the lower guns being able to carry only disrupting guns :p )


I like it bigger because it would make a good ship to take down various large ships from bomber to cruiser size. It would be fast, durable, but not terribly maneuverable, and would have eight medium-powered guns and a decent payload of long-ranged missiles. It would be a combination heavy assault fighter and heavy interceptor, and issued only to elite squadrons.
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Offline Gloriano

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I like it bigger because it would make a good ship to take down various large ships from bomber to cruiser size. It would be fast, durable, but not terribly maneuverable, and would have eight medium-powered guns and a decent payload of long-ranged missiles. It would be a combination heavy assault fighter and heavy interceptor, and issued only to elite squadrons.



Bigger means better target to enemy:p

Smaller is better:)
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Offline Nico

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Well, the ship is done, balancing and the rest is up to me for now, people will do whatever they want with its stats once it's released, but it's 17 meters long, period.
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Offline Woolie Wool

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Bigger means better target to enemy:p

Smaller is better:)


Bigger also means more room for missiles, armor, etc., etc. Seriously, wouldn't it be silly to give a missile bank size of 100 to a Dragon? That's why fighters shouldn't always be really small.
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Offline Liberator

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Originally posted by Nico
Well, the ship is done, balancing and the rest is up to me for now, people will do whatever they want with its stats once it's released, but it's 17 meters long, period.


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Offline Nico

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and herc2 25, I know.
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Offline Sandwich

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So to balance the thing, well, it'll have 8 gunpoints, but each group of 4 will be dedicated to different weapons ( I fancy the lower guns being able to carry only disrupting guns :p )


Can I suggest something "radical"? Instead of dividing the gun banks so each bank has 2 on each side, give bank 1 all four on one side, and bank 2 the other four on the other side.

Why? Because one of the major reasons why the Erinyes was so powerful was because her primary weapon firepoints were closely grouped together, allowing most, if not all, of the 8 seperate bolts to hit the same target area.

While having the weapon pods on either side of the Eze pretty much negates this advantage, you can partially gain it back for times when the player is using only one bank at a time - all four shots from that bank will be concentrated, not spread out.
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Offline Nico

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But that would be weird.
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Offline Liberator

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Not a bad idea, and it would set it apart even more than the truly awesome design and skin work.
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Offline Sandwich

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But that would be weird.


Yes, but not in a bad way IMO. Off-center payloads have been done, primarily on the Ursa IIRC.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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Please don't do this.  It might seem cool, but it IS a bad idea.  It's the biggest reason I hate the Cyclone (?) in inferno.  You don't usually dogfight in an Ursa, so its off center main gun isn't as big of a problem (plus it has a pair of guns around the cockpit as well) but in a fighter (and especially a fighter with limited ordinance capacities) you'll find hitting things to be much harder than normal.  But having all of your weapons clustered around some point other than the centerline of the ship screws up the lead indicator and makes dogfighting a particular pain.  If the guns were mounted close to the cockpit like they are on the Banshee, then that would be one thing, but out on pods like this isn't the place to experiment with unconventional firepoint configurations.
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