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Offline Unknown Target

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Why the hell isn't there a topic about this?
You can kill someone, but do not humiliate them. That's exactly what the Iraqis did.
I'm all for this response.

 

Offline Taristin

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If we nuked Falluja, would anyone miss it?
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Offline Corsair

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It's the wrong response. It keeps the circle of violence going. It creates another Israel-Palestine conflict.

The problem in Israel right now is that everyone has to get revenge for some act of violence performed by the other side. Now, we're going to get sucked into a similar neverending cycle because THE PEOPLE DEMAND IT!
Since when did the stupid Joe on the street know what was good for his country?!

We cannot retaliate in kind because it will just deepen the opposition's resolve.
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Offline Taristin

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Ahh, but if we vaporized the entire country... :drevil:

No, I know. You're right. But I still favor the idea more and more with every attack... :sigh:
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Offline Rictor

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Wait? What's wrong with this picture?

Oh thats right, nothing. They were "security contractors". Do you know what this mean? They were soldiers, except they got paid by a private corporation instead of by the Army. The difference exists on paper alone.

Oh and, as for parading their bodies through the streets, I got three words for you: Uday and Quasay.

 

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buT ThEy Are INferRioR IraKIs aNd WErE AmerKIa!!!1
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Offline Grey Wolf

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Not a good thing. Not that we should be in there in the first place, mind you, but still....
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Offline Bobboau

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so were going to find the people who did it, and kill them, as long as we don't do any sort of colective punishment here I don't see what's wrong. I actualy don't see how this differs from all the other atacks we've had as Rictor points out they were basicly solders, and if not I'm sure they knew what they were getting in for, asside from the humilliation afterwards (an obvius atempt to recreate mogadeshu syndrome) this is nothing so unusual.
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Offline Gank

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Black hawk down finally made it to iraq then.

 

Offline Rictor

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You know the funny thing? I heard that the Iraqi resitance was buying up copies of Black Hawk Down to study US engamement tactics? Now, how credible this information was, is a bit disputable, but its interesting nevertheless...

 

Offline Lonestar

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Its madnening to see the great US threatening an unorganized bunch of people who hate the west and have no weapons threaten overwhelming response.

Yet another bully tactic that will backfire and cause more death and destruction. The US response is expected, and unneeded. Although the loss of life was despicable and useless, and i feel for those families involved, more violence does not solve your problem, and will only beget more violence.

But dont let the past teach the US anything, they are too big for anything to reason with. might as well call themselves the NWO now.....

One last thing, condoning death to people across the world, is not a brave thing. Do it to their faces, then feel good about it, any man or woman with half a heart knows then and there its wrong.

But i guess condoning the death, when not actually holding the knife so to speak, is easy when u got a computer and lazyboy and all the news u want at your disposal. Remember we are all humans living on a very small rock, we should try to get along instead of blowing each other up after each agressive act.

I thought the west was better then what this forum displays? From most of the views here, its no wonder they want us all dead.

Peace....
« Last Edit: April 01, 2004, 09:41:17 pm by 46 »

 

Offline Lonestar

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Quote
Originally posted by Rictor
Wait? What's wrong with this picture?

Oh thats right, nothing. They were "security contractors". Do you know what this mean? They were soldiers, except they got paid by a private corporation instead of by the Army. The difference exists on paper alone.

Oh and, as for parading their bodies through the streets, I got three words for you: Uday and Quasay.


Touche

Funny it isnt such a big deal to most here? Its a big deal to me, the hypocrisy is sickening.

 

Offline Janos

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LET'S BOMB TEH CITY TO ASHES
:rolleyes:

**** happens, and mercs really are not "civilians" or "non-military personell".
lol wtf

 

Offline Ace

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Quote
Originally posted by Janos
LET'S BOMB TEH CITY TO ASHES
:rolleyes:

**** happens, and mercs really are not "civilians" or "non-military personell".


Yeah, I was going to make a comment on that:

"Security Contractors" sounds like a sanitized term for mercenary.

If you're taking a job like that (merc, military, even a reporter in the region) you know the risks involved, including death. Yes, what happened is disgusting, but it is a risk involved.

Retaliation will only give the guerillas/resistance, whichever you prefer, what they want.
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Offline mikhael

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Funny, those security contractor's train down the road from me. The company that trains them trains body guards and the like, not full on mercenaries. They're run by an ex-SEAL, and their staff includes several other ex-special forces soldiers.

Uday and Qusay were not killed, hung from a bridge, pulled down, their legs, arms and head cut off, nor were they set on fire. But hey, why quibble.

The whole thing is just stupid. If we hadn't invaded in the first place, this would be a non-issue.
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Offline Deepblue

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You people make me sick. It doesnt matter who they were, they were killed, but not only that, mutilated. They were brutally, unbearably, indescribably disrespected. And some of these people claim to do it in the name of their religion. It makes me sick.

 

Offline Rictor

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Once you're dead, what does it matter? I don't see how you would much care what happens to you, not like its going to be an issue. Is killing, then mutiliating, is that worse than just killing? If so, its by a miniscule amount. Once you've killed someone, its not like you're about to soil your conscience with mutilating them. Bullets or bombs;  brutal or clean: dead is dead.

But whatever. Deepblue, would you care as much if they were Iraqis? Resitance fighters to be exact? Would you care? Would you be shocked, would you be appaled?

As for the mercs, I have no more sympathy for them than for regular soldiers. From what I understand, the "security contractor" positions are all being filled up with Special Forces guys who left the Army for better pay with a private corporation. If Special Forces soldiers don't know how to handle themselves, thats their problem. These guys are supposed to be the best of the best, its not like they were unprepared for the job.

 

Offline mikhael

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If it helps, I think its pretty sick too. I also think it wouldn't have happened if they hadn't been there. I also think it wouldn't have happened if we hadn't propped up the guy in the first place that we had to go in to remove.

Face it: this is the reality of occupation. This is what happens when you invade another country and choose to hang about after you're done shooting the place up. On the other hand, this is the kind of thing that blind faith in religion pushes people.

Its all nice and happy and wonderful now that we've "liberated" them, isn't it? Wheeeeee!
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Offline Bobboau

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north and south arn't too bad, but it's that creamy center part that don't tast too good.

honestly if US troops did that to Iraqis I would be quite shocked, but this is just another attack as far as I'm concerned, I make note of the mutalations (ect) as it's just so blataint an atempt to blackhawk-down-ify the situation, but aside from that it's just a footnote.

so, what the **** are we going to do, I doubt this was the entire town, were going to sooner find a fully operational nuke than the individuals responcable, unless we have actual proof of who did what, I hope the threats are just bluster, nothing good can come from us over reacting to a hand full of dead mercs.
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