Originally posted by AqueousShadow
Sorry, but I'm with Lightspeed on this one. The beams are way too...not beam-ish. They don't look like a beam is charging up. Rather, they look sort of like...one of your glow-in-the-dark stars that you tack with gum onto your ceiling and you retro-fitted it to a FS2 beam.
If they animated so that the points revolved around the glow center or just kind of "shimmered", they would be btter.
Now about Woolie and Chrono. I am completely behind Woolie on just about all the points. The Lucifer was a weak ship. If you don't recall, somewhere mentioned that whatever Shivans the GTA and PVN fought during FS1 were only a taskforce (I believe it states that on the back of the original FS2 gamebox). Do you ever see the Lucy running in multiples? Hell no. But you have an assload of Sathani don't you? Lucy blew up Vasuda Prime. Sath blew up the Capella sun. Difference? Besides, you can't really call the Lucifer's beams...well, "beams." It was called the "Shivan Super Laser" for a reason. It was designed to completely mutilate the **** out of the Terrans and Vasudans, and also scare the **** out of them too (and it did that well, AT THE TIME). And besides, don't you think the Sath would easily take out a planet with its four forward beams (it DID take out an entire galaxy, although by supernova, still took it out).
First of all, the Sathanas did not take out a whole galaxy. It only destroyed a single star. To destroy the galaxy, they would need to do the Capella thing hundreds of billions of times over and then deal with other bodies there like molecular clouds and the giant mother****er of a black hole in the center.
Second, the Sathanas did not destroy Capella by conventional means. They used a subspace rift thingy instead of dumping ****loads of energy into the target using beam cannons. However, even a single Sath could have rendered Vasuda Prime in...let's see. The Lucy took 13 hours and had two beams doing 10000 damage with a fire wait of ten seconds each. A BFRed does 80850 damage with a fire wait of ten seconds and a Sath has four of them so...
[13(2)]/8.085/4
26/8.085/4
~0.803
....About 48 minutes with BFReds alone.
Just because the Lucifier took out an entire species (and who's to say it wasn't the Sathani instead), it doesn't mean it was UB3R advanced. It only had TWO beams. Besides, the Lucifer was probably the only thing the Shivans had back then (of course taking from your argument that the Sath probably didn't exist back then anyway). How can you say the Lucy is stronger just because you don't know that the Sath hasn't taken out an entire race?
Indeed. If it wasn't for the Bastion and the Nereid sealing off Capella, they WOULD have annihalated humanity.
The Prometheus cannon in FS1 can no way compare to that of FS2's. Why? Simply put, the Prometheus cannon never existed in FS2. There's a reason why there are the Prometheus R and S in FS2. Contrary to what you may believe, the Prometheus R (for Retro-fit) is a lot closer to the original FS1 Prometheus. They built that cannon from long ago, and because of lack of resources to continue building it, they built a retro-fit version for cost-effective purposes. The Prometheus S came around as an upgrade. And the main reason it's so different is because it's supposed to kick more ass than the FS1 cannon did. Besides, the FS1 cannon is half the size of that of the Prometheus S, primarily because the Prometheus S has a fatass extended...thing for, as I said, kicking ass. Can't really say it's a barrel 'cause it doesn't shoot two globs. It sucks a lot more energy too.
Not quite correct. The Prometheus R was an attempt to build a version of the Prometheus that doesn't use as much argon gas because such gas was in short supply before miners were deployed to the nebula. It fires more slowly, uses more energy, and does less damage (especially shield damage) than the original Prometheus or the S version. The S version was developed after the nebula was explored and was a version of the original upgraded to keep up with the times (thus its higher damage values).