[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by Raa Tor'h
That one is 'crinkled' because I made a mistake with it.

I'm talking about the subspace POF that shipped with FS2 retail.

[deep_eyes]

maybe its time i redid my version of subspace to a hi-res version.... (nexus space flight in hires whee!)

[JarC]

well, 'Ouroboros' just yanked the rug from underneath the whole subspace idea...real sobering reading back his comments from 5yrs ago...needs major rethinking over...kinda just wasting time with the current model and features...

[Vanguard]

All three of those look really good.  I think I like the first one best because the second is a little too dark and the third looks like a cylindrical lightning storm.  Maybe that is just the ambient lighting.  That second one might be good if you want to simulate being in the middle of a tornado in your mission though.  We're not in Kansas anymore, Command, or something to that effect.

[ShadowDrakken]

are these to scale with the ship model? cause if so, YUCK! they're TOO DANG HUGE!!!

Granted the normal FS2 ones are a bit small, but come on, maybe a 50% enlargement, but these are just UGLY this huge

[JarC]

Originally posted by ShadowDrakken
are these to scale with the ship model? cause if so, YUCK! they're TOO DANG HUGE!!!

too huge?! man the original is so cramped, two capships in there and you ain't got even room to dodge missiles...

[Rictor]

First one, no contest.

[ShadowDrakken]

Originally posted by JarC
too huge?! man the original is so cramped, two capships in there and you ain't got even room to dodge missiles...

eh? I could have sworn the original portals scaled based on the ship that creates them...

[AqueousShadow]

The first piccy is awesome
The second piccy really does remind of the SW hyperspace thingy in Rebel Assault 2....and then
The third piccy is just a bit weird. I like it though, a different feel to subspace. All in all, good job JarC!

[Rictor]

Originally posted by ShadowDrakken

eh? I could have sworn the original portals scaled based on the ship that creates them...

They do, but AFAIK this has no bearing on the size of subspace. Its a seperate pof file with a fixed size.

[ShadowDrakken]

ok, I'm lost, just ignore me =^_^= I thought subspace was when ships portalled in and out at nodes and such... thought this was about new artwork for that (which is needed, especially the ability to warp in and out in different colors )

[Rictor]

what you're talking about it the entrance to subspace. its just an animation you see when ships warp in and out.

If you've never played FS1, you probably don't know about subspace. You allways just see the ships entering and exiting, but you never see subspace itself. Its like a tunnel that ships travel through to get from point to point. It never appears in FS2, thats why many people don't know about it. The tunnel itself is a model with textures, like a ship. Thats what is being replaced here. Hope that made sense.

[Vanguard]

I keep having flashbacks to the inside of that wormhole on Deep Space Nine when I see some of those pictures.  That should probably be avoided.

[ShadowDrakken]

Originally posted by Rictor
what you're talking about it the entrance to subspace. its just an animation you see when ships warp in and out.

If you've never played FS1, you probably don't know about subspace. You allways just see the ships entering and exiting, but you never see subspace itself. Its like a tunnel that ships travel through to get from point to point. It never appears in FS2, thats why many people don't know about it. The tunnel itself is a model with textures, like a ship. Thats what is being replaced here. Hope that made sense.

I have and have played FS1 (no expansion though), but it's got some seriously tough missions and it's been a long time. I'm not sure I've ever gotten to any of the subspace missions before

As it is, in FS2 I've only made it past the Sathanas once (coincidently, that's exactly where I'm at again now after several years not playing)

I'd love to see improved entrance/exit portals along with the subspace missions

[mrduckman]

Originally posted by Vanguard
I keep having flashbacks to the inside of that wormhole on Deep Space Nine when I see some of those pictures.  That should probably be avoided.

LOL There's budget.

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Rictor
They do, but AFAIK this has no bearing on the size of subspace. Its a seperate pof file with a fixed size.

Which is also not relevant here.  The size of the subspace models is also not what is displayed in game, as the models in the VP are precisely 25x25x334, much too small to actually fiy anything inside.

[Rictor]

Really? So the subspace model is dynamically re-sized or what? I thought it was fixed-size, guess I never had the opportunity to find out otherwise.

ShadowDrakken: yup, I too would like to see new jump animations. The current ones are low-res and the pof model could also stand to be improved.

[Ransom]

I don't see what's wrong with the current jump animations. And I still prefer the original subspace texture. These new ones just don't feel right to me.

[Carl]

well then you'll like mine. they're almost exactly like the originals, but higher res.

[Setekh]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Oh, so arch thou art.

A POF that fixed the "crinkled" subspace ends has been available for a long, long time (courtesy of Styxx). I believe it's hosted on Volition Watch. They also have piles of alternate subspace textures.

Funny to watch everyone all drooling and tripping over each other as if this has never been done before.

ZB, read back a few pages. I've already mentioned this and a new issue exists. We're no longer aiming for a mere "fixed" subspace (which, as you and I have pointed out, already exists), but one with more layers. It's around page 2 or 3, IIRC.