[an0n]

All Hitler did was a more active version of what happens passively in every society. People who are losers and/or dangerous to the government are ostracized and crapped on. People who are winners and/or help the government are treated well.

He just took it one step further and erradicated the loser people to make the lives of the winners ten times better. And to be fair, he had a point. All he wanted to do was make a perfect race, which is an admirable goal, but it'd mean he'd have to infringe on the rights and lives of the people who were, by any measure, inferior. He pre-empted the problem of their *****ing by wiping them out, and even used the extermination as a means of increasing his support amongst the 'winner' people. The exception to this was the Jews, who were just scapegoats to rally the German people into action.

[Rictor]

And you're quite obviously trolling for attention.

[an0n]

And you should quite obviously shut the **** up.

[Liberator]

Originally posted by Rictor
And you're quite obviously trolling for attention.

No, he's trolling to raise his post count.

[Bobboau]

yup only 531 more to go

[ionia23]

Originally posted by IceFire
One thing that I don't understand:

Why is Osama Bin Laden going to exact revenge against the Americans for the killing of Sheikh Yassin the now assassinated leader of Hamas when the killing was done by Israelis?

Its becoming quite clear that this guy sees the world in a completely alternate way to anything that I've ever considered or heard of.

Pretty simple, really.  The US backs Israel without question.  Therefore, any action Israel takes is attributed to US interference or influence in the same sense that all the problems of the middle east are caused solely by the US, or such is the general consensus.

Sarcastic, yes.  But sift through that and you have at least part of the reasoning.

[vyper]

It worries me that you were being sarcastic.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by vyper
It worries me that you were being sarcastic.

Why's that?

[vyper]

Because you seem to think the US has no responsibility for what Israel is up to.

[Gank]

The contract to do the work in Iraq, similar to work the company performed in both Bosnia and Kosovo, was competitively bid in 2001.

http://www.halliburton.com/news/archive/2003/corpnws_091903.jsp

Nobody noticed this?

[ionia23]

Originally posted by vyper
Because you seem to think the US has no responsibility for what Israel is up to.

That would assume that I disagree with Israel's actions, which I don't.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by an0n
All Hitler did was a more active version of what happens passively in every society. People who are losers and/or dangerous to the government are ostracized and crapped on. People who are winners and/or help the government are treated well.

He just took it one step further and erradicated the loser people to make the lives of the winners ten times better. And to be fair, he had a point. All he wanted to do was make a perfect race, which is an admirable goal, but it'd mean he'd have to infringe on the rights and lives of the people who were, by any measure, inferior. He pre-empted the problem of their *****ing by wiping them out, and even used the extermination as a means of increasing his support amongst the 'winner' people. The exception to this was the Jews, who were just scapegoats to rally the German people into action.

Ah. So you believe in Machiavellian politics, an0n?

[vyper]

All life is [q]Machiavellian politics[/q] it's just dressed up...

[Rictor]

Thats a very depressing way of looking at the world. And for my money, untrue.

[Grey Wolf]

Well, it's really more of a philosophy. And it appears that once you believe in Machiavellian politics, you believe everyone else does, too.

[Rictor]

Or rather, you believe that their beliefs are irrelevant in comparison to who wields the power.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Rictor
Or rather, you believe that their beliefs are irrelevant in comparison to who wields the power.

Two can play that game!

It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Rictor
Or rather, you believe that their beliefs are irrelevant in comparison to who wields the power.

No, I believe beliefs shouldn't get in the way of facts.

And it just so happens that my analysis of a situation is always the actual, factual one.

[vyper]

Originally posted by Rictor
Thats a very depressing way of looking at the world. And for my money, untrue.

Hey I don't make the rules...

[Rictor]

I've brought up the "realistic, factual etc etc" statement a few times before. The basic premise here, which "you people" seem to think is proven by historical evidence, is that people are bastards. Might makes right, the strong rule the weak and all that. Right, well, I see no reason why that should be. Granted, throughout most of history that has been the case, but then again, the same can be said for slavery, women being second class citizens, and even democracy. Totally new concepts are being "discovered" and accepted by the world every day. Present day democracy is better than that found in ancient Athens. It represents (in theory) a far greater section of the population. Another arguement, though one I think everyone is tired of, is the old "Internet communication revolution" one. What was previously impossible is now not only possible, but I would say essential to our society.

/rant.