[Nico]

Originally posted by Ghostavo
Incredible... a game under 100kbs needs pixel shader!!

There's none. Well, there is, but it's prerendered before the game starts.

[Thorn]

Any of the Geforce MX line will not work either.....

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]The point (to me) is not how much fun the game is or how pretty it is but the very idea that so much can be achieved with so little code.

That very fact alone makes it something to consider with awe in this age of gigabytes of hard disk space. To me it suggests that something is amiss when you need 150 megs to install something like microsoft word.
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[redsniper]

well, bang for buck (kilobyte in this case) this is the best game there is. except maybe pong...

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
At 96KB who cares It shows what's possible with a little good knowledge. I wish the big names would give up sloppy code for something this neat... heck you could fit the entire thing on one CD again, as opposed to UT2004s 6....

Thats why you get the DVD version of UT2004, which comes on one handy "play disc", come to think of it. Every game i,ve got this year has been DVD-rom.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]The point (to me) is not how much fun the game is or how pretty it is but the very idea that so much can be achieved with so little code.

That very fact alone makes it something to consider with awe in this age of gigabytes of hard disk space. To me it suggests that something is amiss when you need 150 megs to install something like microsoft word.
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Maybe im a skeptic, but im tempted to believe that when you play it, it takes up a fair bit more room. Or not, i just thought that excessive loading time was it uncompressing itself.

[vyper]

OT: UT2k4 - 6cd version is 8 quid cheaper than dvd on play.com.

[Exarch]

Well, it's essentially a demo (in old sense, not the modern 'scaled down game' sense) more than it is a game. And in that perspective, it's very impressive.

If you find this interesting from a technological standpoint, try taking a look at any demo/intro competitions that are still around (not really been much into that since the amiga days, so no links sorry), it's damn impressive what people can fit into sometimes as little at 16kb

[Flipside]

My MX5600 runs it, though jerkily And yes I think it's incredible, remember not only have they fitted the game in there, they've fitted the unlit textures, the geometry etc. This is an extreme example, but the question remains, why does it take another 5.99 CD's of stuff to turn this into UT2K4?

[vyper]

[q] why does it take another 5.99 CD's of stuff to turn this into UT2K4?[/q]

The aversion to massive loading times or dual processors with 6Ghz Clock speeds

[YodaSean]

Pretty cool,  but it runs really slowly on my computer, I think it needs more RAM or something.  I have a Radeon 9600XT, I'd think that would be more than enough, but with only 380ish mb of RAM..

[01010]

Originally posted by Exarch


If you find this interesting from a technological standpoint, try taking a look at any demo/intro competitions that are still around (not really been much into that since the amiga days, so no links sorry),

Remember the Spaceballs series of demos? I loved those.

[Flipside]

Well, as they say, it is only using software rendering, for something that should be hardware rendered, but how much bigger did changing FS2 to HT&L make it? Practically none, and that wasn't even designed to be HT&L.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Exarch
If you find this interesting from a technological standpoint, try taking a look at any demo/intro competitions that are still around (not really been much into that since the amiga days, so no links sorry), it's damn impressive what people can fit into sometimes as little at 16kb

Ah the memories, when cdroms started popping up in magazines, there was a magazine that would load theirs with demos ( and since demomaking is about making the more visual effects in the smallest file, believe me you can cram a lot of those in a CD ). Scandinavians were darn good at that. Remember equinoxe, revenge, triad...
"sheds tears of nostalgia"
Those were the days

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]The point (to me) is not how much fun the game is or how pretty it is but the very idea that so much can be achieved with so little code.

That very fact alone makes it something to consider with awe in this age of gigabytes of hard disk space. To me it suggests that something is amiss when you need 150 megs to install something like microsoft word.
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I think the fundamental problem is the advance of technology..... it becomes easier to do stuff quicker, without having to work as hard on efficiency.  same goes for space usage, etc.......I think that the last thing to be optimised will be space usage, because the rest of technology has tighter boundaries to break....

[kode]

Originally posted by Nico

I'm gladly switching the 96kb for no loading time and a game that runs fine on anything else than a Cray.
 

seeing as the cray the computer club I'm a member of takes ages to do most basic stuff, I would too.

that, and it doesn't support directx at all, running a unix system and all...

but eh... I kind of agree with you, I guess.

[Flipside]

Heh, I remember installing the original 'After Dark' screensaver off of 5 1/2 inch floppy onto a 386 with a 2Mb Hard Drive and a 14" Greenscreen monitor, which completely ruined the effect of the After Dark btw

I remember signing onto Amstrad bulletin boards, and all the board owners were your mates cos there were so few Amstrad owners with Modems And we sneaked into the PC World show by pretending we were a company, got the VIP treatment and all

Hell, I could go on all day......

Edit : And by PC World, I don't mean the company, I mean the magazine, this was long before the company

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Wow flip, I had a CPC464 back in the day. Of course I just used it to play Oh Mummy, Dizzy and other great games.
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[Grey Wolf]

The first computer I ever used was an old Tandy 80/80, IIRC. I remember playing Star Trek on it. The Enterprise looked like this: << E >>

EDIT: Stupid HTML.

[Flipside]

LOL They were great, I used to have a 6128, but the drive kept conking out on me, and they cost a fortune I liked Oh Mummy, and Manic Miner, but my favourites were Ranarama and the somewhat good Gauntlet port Ah.... the simple days LOL

The fun really began when I started learning Z80 coding though