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Offline WMCoolmon

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The prequels...well, the Phantom Menace seems to be a poor ripoff of ANH. It's like someone went over ANH, took the basic points, then decided to make it more civillized. There's no urgency, not much action.  Overall, the movie seems have a lot in common with the corridors of the Trade Federation starships - lifeless and empty.

Everything is very proper, there's no real raw emotion or real choices for the characters to work with. Hell, the line that might've given a sense of urgency - "People are dying!" is dismissed with "It's a trick!". This could've been capitlized on, with a little work, by making it a bigger part of the plot. Thus we, the audience, sympathize more with the main characters and get more involved in the movie.

To summarize: TPM doesn't seem fun or tense or emotional, just a bunch of blocked scenes with occassional lines.

Episode 2 takes a step in the right direction. Though when you see the changes since Episode 1 (everything but characters' names), it makes you wonder if Lucas didn't want to get away from TPM himself. Then you learn, oh, it's supposed to be a parallel from ANH and ESB...then you wonder why Lucas is copying from himself. :wtf:

rant rant rant.... :hopping: (Edited for time and space :p)

Anyway, supposedly Lucas says we're supposed to hate the new Star Wars movie b/c it's so dark. Sounds like a ploy to lower expectations to me. On the other hand, maybe if Lucas writes something he expects us to hate, we'll get a masterpiece. :D
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Personally, I hated the Phantom Menace. Clones wasn't bad in any scene not involving these characters:
Anakin
Padme
Dooku
Jar Jar
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Cristopher Lee is the man, they just never give him any good lines, which sucks for him quite a bit.  Gypped with Saruman, then with Dooku.  

I'd like to see an encounter with Jar Jar and a Sivan personally.  

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It wasn't his acting. It was the writing. He acted very well given his lines, but there is only so much you can do with utter bull****.
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See, I liked the ideas behind the first 2 films so far. The political manipulation by Palpatine: the fact that the whole Naboo thing was staged essentially only to get Palpatine into power; EpII was all about him getting the authority to weild a massive army as a move towards the events we know are going to happen. (which was then rammed down our throats in case we missed it :rolleyes: )  They were good themes to use, I like films with devious behind-the-scenes maniplulation of events.


Except the parts where the movies actually contradict themselves...
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[color=66ff00]Passes Greywolf and an0n a cookie in respect for the last two posts.

Episode III: A Negligable Hope
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You failed to notice Hayden Christensen's bad acting? Are you blind AND deaf? :confused:


I saw Ep 2 merely once. So it was not the thing I was paying attention to.
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Episode 3: Return of the Stink-Eye....
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In EP. II almost everything's acceptable with the first viewing. However, as soon as you watch it a second time, you see how much it sucks.

 

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In EP. II almost everything's acceptable with the first viewing. However, as soon as you watch it a second time, you see how much it sucks.


Especially after you are told to watch its mistakes. ;)
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That's why I don't read reviews before seeing movies, they make me look for the mistakes :D

 

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[color=66ff00]You have to admit though, for kids who've never seen any of them to sit down and watch Starwars in chronological order it must be cool.

Think about it, you dredge through episodes 1+2(and presumably 3) and wonder what all the hype was about, then you get to a new hope and everything starts to get cool all of a sudden.
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The Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon vs. Darth Maul was already cool.
The battle inside the arena of Geonosis was even cooler.
Space battles are better in the later episodes, I admir.
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[EDIT] Sorry for the double post, my internet connection is a bit crappy.
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I saw Ep 2 merely once. So it was not the thing I was paying attention to.


Well tear your eyes away from Natalie Portman's breasts next time and listen to the dialogue ;)
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Honsty, there's one line in Ep II that summed the whole thing up for me: "I'm beside myself."  If you don't know where this quote came from, well, I don't know how you missed it.  Why the script had to stoop so low as to include such pathetic wouldn't-even-cut-it-in-crappy-sitcom jokes that serve no purpose and make you want to rip the talking head of C3P0 apart.  Or the frollicing cow scene.  Or the conveyor belt fight.  Yeah.  All these scenes were really not necessary, and were only included for Lucas to show off some demented idea he made "real" with ILM.  Combined with the crappy acting, no amount of special effects are going to make up for the fact that the movie sucked.  The effects were well done, they just had no vision.  Even the massively orchistrated Battle of Naboo in Ep I had no flare, it was just shiny spaceships duking it out while the real battle happened on the ground and some annoying brat managed to do what a squadron of elite pilots could not simply by saying "hey, I wonder what this does" or "spinning's a good move."  Put in a plot that makes the random battles make some sense, and you've got a great thing.  Put in the battles with some weak story that pretends (and fails) to put the whole thing together and you get Eps I and II.  It's not Star Wars.
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Well tear your eyes away from Natalie Portman's breasts next time and listen to the dialogue ;)


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Well tear your eyes away from Natalie Portman's breasts next time and listen to the dialogue ;)
Why?
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Cause you can't say that it was a good film unless you've actually watched the film itself rather than the soft-core porn version you think you saw :D

On the other hand as long as you aren't going to express an opinion on the film feel free to stare away ;)
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