[Unknown Target]

But guys, think about what you're saying: you want to make a movie about someone OTHER than the main character in the games (YOU!). Wouldn't it be kind of...um...not Freespace if there wasn't an Alpha 1?

And herein lies the problem: You have to take a 1D character + his interactions with other 1D characters, and make it into a full-length movie. It's REALLY HARD.

[Blaise Russel]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Wouldn't it be kind of...um...not Freespace if there wasn't an Alpha 1?

Um, no?

Freespace = Terrans and Vasudans and Shivans. Alpha 1 is not central to the story; hell, they're different people in FS1 and FS2.

Freespace has always been about the epic conflicts of those three species, not about the personal trials and tribulations of the player's avatar. That's why Alpha 1 is one dimensional.

[jdjtcagle]

Originally posted by Singh
Anyone........remember Kappa wing?
Nothing was specified about what happened to the entire wing. Only one survivor made it to the Aquitaine, but what about the others? A movie starting with one of the pilots of Kappa wing (they are onboard the Aquitaine, so we can have involvement with Alpha 1 as well) would be quite usefull in tying things up with the main storyline........

Edit;
unless we're dealing with a FS1 movie. I was thinking of an FS2 movie, sorry.

If you ARE thinking of FS1...how about a character that works onboard whatever ship you're on. Can be anyone, from the Captain to maybe the driver......just need a story-arc that fits in with the main campaign, or at least remains some contact with Alpha 1. (maybe one of the pilots covering their entry into Subspace?)

Kappa wing disapeard and then that one survivor reapeared like a few week later.  which could be a very interesting story

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Blaise Russel


Um, no?

Freespace = Terrans and Vasudans and Shivans. Alpha 1 is not central to the story; hell, they're different people in FS1 and FS2.

Freespace has always been about the epic conflicts of those three species, not about the personal trials and tribulations of the player's avatar. That's why Alpha 1 is one dimensional.

Um, yes. Where does all the storyline happen? Around Alpha 1. Where does all the real important action take place? Around Alpha 1. Who is the protaganist of the whole damn thing? Alpha 1. Who...do you get my point?
Alpha 1 would need to be a central character because the game (hence, the storyline) REVOLVES around him.

[Blaise Russel]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Um, yes. Where does all the storyline happen? Around Alpha 1. Where does all the real important action take place? Around Alpha 1. Who is the protaganist of the whole damn thing? Alpha 1. Who...do you get my point?
Alpha 1 would need to be a central character because the game (hence, the storyline) REVOLVES around him.

Oh, yes, I see.

Bosch started the Neo-Terran Front because of Alpha 1.

Bosch sent the Trinity through the Knossos portal because of Alpha 1.

The Shivans invaded Gamma Draconis because of Alpha 1.

Bosch fled NTF space to the nebula beyond the portal because of Alpha 1.

The Sathanas attacked Capella because of Alpha 1.

Bosch used ETAK to communicate with the Shivans because of Alpha 1.

The Sathanas fleet destroyed the Capella star by making it go nova because of Alpha 1.

Yes, Alpha 1 is indeed critical to Freespace. Obviously, all this stuff happens because of him. He saves Sol from the Lucifer single-handedly, after all - Delta wing and all those other people who, like, discovered the Ancient ruins and figured out inter-system fighter jump drives, did nothing! Striding like a Colossus across the heavens, he both initiates all of the conflicts in the Freespace universe and solves them! Truly the Great Preserver as well as the Great Destroyer!



Alpha 1 is hardly the protagonist. The GTA and GTVA are the protagonists, but not Alpha 1. He's just a lackey. Furthermore, he's not even a special lackey - his place could be taken by anyone. The only reason he's involved in so much stuff is because it would be boring for all these cool things to happen, but since the player is a security guard protecting a Wolf 359 supply depot, he never gets to see them.

The only reason Alpha 1 is special is because he's the player's avatar, but as there's no player in a movie, Alpha 1 is not special and is not necessary.

No, really. Write the plot out for FS1 or FS2. Not a mission synopsis, but like you was writing a history of WW1 or WW2. Do you need to mention the amorphous non-character that is Alpha 1? No. Do you need to mention Command deciding to deploy the Colossus against the Sathanas in Capella? Yes.

[jdjtcagle]

What he was trying to say was He's witnessed most of it

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Blaise Russel


Bosch started the Neo-Terran Front because of Alpha 1.

Bosch sent the Trinity through the Knossos portal because of Alpha 1.

The Shivans invaded Gamma Draconis because of Alpha 1.

Bosch fled NTF space to the nebula beyond the portal because of Alpha 1.

The Sathanas attacked Capella because of Alpha 1.

Bosch used ETAK to communicate with the Shivans because of Alpha 1.

The Sathanas fleet destroyed the Capella star by making it go nova because of Alpha 1.

So, basically, if we're going to do it like you say, then we should make a movie about Bosch and possibly Carl's half-brother Bob?
Basically, like jd said, Alpha 1 has witnessed all of this, and, therefore, it would be through his VIEWPOINT that we show it(both during the game and the movie).

[Flipside]

But he's only Alpha 1 when he's actually in his ship. If you are going to do the story of Freespace as a load of ships flying around, why not play the campaign instead?

[jdjtcagle]

That's why it should be a marine

[Blaise Russel]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Basically, like jd said, Alpha 1 has witnessed all of this, and, therefore, it would be through his VIEWPOINT that we show it(both during the game and the movie).

And that would make a **** movie.

Alpha 1 has no character - hell, he doesn't even have a name. What's there to make a movie about?

It would make a lot more sense to centre the movie around somebody else who actually DOES something. You can't make a movie according to the rules of computer games, it just doesn't make sense; you can't have the main character of a movie be the main character of a game like Alpha 1 because there's nothing to Alpha 1 but a name!

I have yet to see a reason why it should be centred around Alpha 1 other than 'that's how the game did it'. Guess what? This is a Freespace movie, not a Freespace game.

[jdjtcagle]

Ok, I'm through talking about it. Does anybody have any models??

[Lightspeed]

B.R.'s post are the exact reflection of my thoughts on this thread.

And BlackWolf gets a big nice from me

[Singh]

Originally posted by Blaise Russel


Oh, yes, I see.

Bosch started the Neo-Terran Front because of Alpha 1.

Bosch sent the Trinity through the Knossos portal because of Alpha 1.

The Shivans invaded Gamma Draconis because of Alpha 1.

Bosch fled NTF space to the nebula beyond the portal because of Alpha 1.

The Sathanas attacked Capella because of Alpha 1.

Bosch used ETAK to communicate with the Shivans because of Alpha 1.

The Sathanas fleet destroyed the Capella star by making it go nova because of Alpha 1.

You know.......this all gives me ideas, and can be easily connected to a single (yet horribly HORRIBLY unlucky) character that doesn't need to be Alpha 1......who says that Alpha 1 could be the only agent inside the NTF? Could Kappa 1 have really been on just a routine patrol mission? What about other NTF ships inside the nebula? Oh god, the possibilities!
*goes off to plot...mwhahahahahahahahaha.

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
That's why it should be a marine

Yea, that's what I ended up writing. But if Freespace is about ship to ship combat, then why are we doing it about marines?

[Flipside]

Freespace the computer game is about ship-ship combat, Freespace the story included Marines, Pilots, Rank officers, civilians etc. At least, in my opinion

[jdjtcagle]

Oooo... the possiblilties

But, we are going to have problems. This isn't star trek so if your writing it, there are no energy beings, no teleporting, no incredibly smart robots.  Try to keep it modern, but in a futuristic kind of way.

EDIT: Very important, colonies in the GTVA were mostly space based and there were probably few planets able to support life, unless it was a small populated mining colony.  But most Civilian planets would most likely be
SOL:

Major:  Earth, Mars, Europa
Mining/Minor: Moon, any planet with rings, asteroids, Deimos, Phobos.

Other Systems with Major Colonies:  Ross 128, Ribos, Beta Aquilia,(I think Delta Serpentis was probally just a system with Minor and lead to other key systems.) Capella, Sirrius and Polaris

So when making the story, try to keep it believable on planets, moons, or asteroids.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
I think Delta Serpentis was probally just a system with Minor and lead to other key systems.

DS became the terran capital so I think you'd be wrong there.

[jdjtcagle]

Oh, yea... I thought it was Beta Aquilia was the capital for some reason. Probably because of Beta Aquilia treaty deal , BETAC, I think.  Thanks for reminding me

[jdjtcagle]

*BUMP*

Ok, I got 3ds Max and going through of tutorials... does someone have any models???  Come on Nico, share the Shivan

[Flipside]

Check his siggy, I think it's available to download from there