[Liberator]

Okay, but are the internals of a Shivan a suitable enviroment for Xenomorph gestation?

Some theories suggest there is nothing inside the armor but an organized Subspace energy matrix, others that the Shivans are crazy advanced robot.

[IceFire]

Shivans win because:

- Capable of living in zero-g, zero atmosphere vacum
- Built in beam weaponry
- Durable protective suit
- Relatively fast and rediculously strong
- Will strategically torch xenomorphs wherever they are (by blowing up their planet or star as required)

[Star Dragon]

ROFLMAO

 you humans, it always boils down to sex... (as for Anon I think this is the second mentioning of raped remains , is this true? perhaps it's a cry for help?) Kidding

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by IceFire
Shivans win because:

- Capable of living in zero-g, zero atmosphere vacum
- Built in beam weaponry
- Durable protective suit
- Relatively fast and rediculously strong
 

Xenos may win cause:

-Capable of living in zero-g, zero atmosphere vacuum
-Extremely fast and strong
-Venomous tail
-Highly Acidic blood (capable of spitting)
-Rock-hard Chitinous exoskeleton
-Razor claws
-Pneumatic Inner jaw

Liberator, I thought the theory was that they were an organic entity fused with cybernetic enhancements?

[Liberator]

Jetmech, I've seen both and more bandied about, but in truth they are likely 99% machine if not all machine given the onboard weapondry energy requirements.

[karajorma]

We're all making an assumption based on the fact that the shivans were showing their best fighting abilities in Hallfight. From the way they toyed with the marines before killing them I'd say that it's quite possible that they weren't at all.

EDIT : Corrected a typo bob noticed.

[Bobboau]

you mean 'weren't' right?
otherwise what you just said doesn't realy make sence.

I don't get why people keep bringing up the acid blood, that's only a problem after the Shivan wins

[Jetmech Jr.]

Because the Xeno can spit it.
And its not only a problem after the shivan wins, the xeno can survive with the entire lower portion of its body gone.

[Knight Templar]

So? Shivans have BEAMS!!![/i].

Beams>Acid

[Jetmech Jr.]

I fail to see a point, KT, that hasnt been made before. Yeah beams are powerful and a direct hit would blow a xeno to dust, but they can be dodged, Xenos are heat resistant (negating close misses, not direct hits), and they are still highly combat effective event with an arm or leg blown off.

[Knight Templar]

Shivan beams don't miss.

They also have those nice little blade dealies on their arms.

[an0n]

When the **** did the Aliens ever spit acid?

In Ressurection the Queen had to have two beasties tear each other apart to get out enough blood to burn through the floor.

And the Shivans in Hallfight probably weren't even soliders. They'll've been pilots and/or engineers.

As for the 'heat resistant', they're not. They just have a much higher tollerance. Fire ****s them up.

Finally: The Shivan wouldn't go for an arm of a leg. It'd grab it by whatever was handy, then mash its chest and head into the floor with the entirely of it ton+ weight.

[aldo_14]

sigh...... you're taking this too far, methinks.

Think of it this way - there's a Shivan and a Xenomorph in the pub.  Which one would you fancy your chances most against?

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by an0n
When the **** did the Aliens ever spit acid?


As for the 'heat resistant', they're not. They just have a much higher tollerance. Fire ****s them up.

 

In Ressurection, One of the aliens spits acid while they're climbing a ladder (watch the movie again)

Molten lead is hot. If it survives a prolonged dip it molten lead, I consider it somewhat heat resistant. Fire ****s them up cos it sticks to em. Give a shivan a Flamethrower, and I'll put my money on the shivan.

KT: how do you know beams never miss?

[Knight Templar]

Because Shivans have them. And Shivans 0wn j00.

[an0n]

The abilities of the Ressurection Aliens cannot be considered demostrative of the abilities of all Xenos, as they're spliced with Ripley's DNA as well as that of the people they incubated in.

[Jetmech Jr.]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Because Shivans have them. And Shivans 0wn j00.

anon: it also happens in alien 3

Point taken, though.

[an0n]

The only instance I can recall of an Alien spitting is when (IIRC) it sprays the black guy in Ressurection.

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Wouldn't the shivan just blow itself and everything in the vicinity up? Like it did in Hallfight.

[Jetmech Jr.]

In Alien 3, in that tunnel with the giant fan. The dude who owned the dog saw the runner in that little grate, thought it was his dog looked down, and got sprayed. The edges of the grate he was looking through were shown later melted by acid.