[übermetroid]

lol!  
Turn on the Bat Armor!

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by Kosh
I had those thoughts about the dialogue in DS9. It often seemed somewhat stilted or was being taken too seriously.

Eh, that was just Sisko. And his speechifying could be forgiven because it usually came with some really, really good CGI space battles attached.

/misses Quark

[an0n]

Quark has to be the 3rd best character to ever appear in Trek.
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• Kurn: Worf's brother. The guy who played him, and whose name escapes me, is a good actor and plays the surly Klingon very well. And as a character, Kurn had some great stuff to do and say, like rallying four squadrons to Gowron's cause during the Civil War and "Just a short while ago, I had to stop myself from killing Commander Riker".
• Martok: Leader of the Empire. He just kicks ass on so many levels. He had half-decent character development with the whole 'scared to fight' thing. And he wasn't a moron or a Romulan colaborator like most Klingons. Every time he spoke about his wife was pure comedy; Absolutely loathing her, but loving her for being a complete cow.
• Quark: There is one, simple, short thing that makes Quark kick ass: The 'ode' to Picard's Borg speech he gives to Zek and Rom -

Originally ripped-off by Quark:
I don't care. I won't preside over the demise of Ferengi civilization. Not me! The line has to be drawn here! This far and no further!

[Grey Wolf]

I still like Worf, Lore, Picard, and Picard-as-Locutus myself.

[Rictor]

My favourite character was always Han Solo, but thats just me.

[Xelion]

Originally posted by karajorma
Did you not watch DS9 then? That show was very different from the other Star Trek shows precisely because it was B5-like.

I've watched every ST and B5 episode available and I doubt those 2 even resemble each other remotely. I've even continued to read the books after Ds9 and still can't see the resemblance some of you guys are seeing... there simply is none, the fact that they're both stations doesn't mean squat, they way they talk or even the fact that theres a wormhole and not a jump gate. - its coincidence!

btw ST:DS9 is one of the best trek series ever!

[Bobboau]

yes it is but if you read the outline that JMS gave paramount and watch the pilot for DS9 there are quite a few erry similarities

[Knight Templar]

I've never seen a full episode of Babylon, but if he can make a new series that brings back the Star Trek of DS9, I'm all for it.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Xelion
I've watched every ST and B5 episode available and I doubt those 2 even resemble each other remotely. I've even continued to read the books after Ds9 and still can't see the resemblance some of you guys are seeing... there simply is none, the fact that they're both stations doesn't mean squat, they way they talk or even the fact that theres a wormhole and not a jump gate. - its coincidence!

Did you not notice the whole Sheridan is The One, Sisko is the prophet thing?

Originally posted by Bobboau
yes it is but if you read the outline that JMS gave paramount and watch the pilot for DS9 there are quite a few erry similarities

Got a link? I'd love to read that.

[ZylonBane]

It's pretty blindingly obvious.

DS9 = B5 (both with a numeric designation even)
Defiant = Whitestar (little prototype ships with a big punch, designed to fight the Borg/Shadows)
Sisko = Sinclair ("He is The One!")
Bajorans = Minbari (strongly religous; "Sisko/Sinclair is The One!")
Odo = Garibaldi (the gruff, streetwise, emotionally shuttered, seen-it-all security chief)
Giant overkill CGI space battles = Giant overkill CGI space battles (both worked on by Foundation Imaging, oddly enough)
Promenade = Zocolo
Wormhole = Jumpgate

And of course DS9 was the first Trek to feature season-long story arcs, something which B5 notable introduced to TV scifi.

[USS Alexander]

Well i just bought voyager dvd season 1 lol i think i made the wrong decision, i should have gone for ds9 cause there's more shooting in it

[karajorma]

Originally posted by USS Alexander
Well i just bought voyager dvd season 1 lol i think i made the wrong decision, i should have gone for ds9 cause there's more shooting in it

Should have gone for DS9 on the grounds that it isn't a load of B&B fanwank

That said I never much liked season one of DS9.  For me it took a whie for the series to get good.

Originally posted by ZylonBane
Defiant = Whitestar (little prototype ships with a big punch, designed to fight the Borg/Shadows)

What makes me laugh is that both ships were introduced in the same episode. Ep 3x01

So even if DS9 is heavily based on JMS's pitch to Paramount that has to be a coincidence surely

[Knight Templar]

Maybe it's a conspiracy instead.

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by USS Alexander
Well i just bought voyager dvd season 1 lol i think i made the wrong decision

More obvious words have never been spoken.

[WMCoolmon]

Voyager isn't all bad. The doctor is okay, as is Tom and Harry (The only ensign who doesn't die...permanently. Yet. ) Seven of Nine also has her moments.

I think part of the problem is that somewhere, in the back of every person who view Voyager, is the knowledge that during any given episode they probably missed out on a few dozen thousand lightyears of their journey home.

Plus the whole series is stereotypical. You think it's a coincidence that the one Starfleet ship with a female captain gets lost, and is constantly having to make stops on its trip?

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
I've never seen a full episode of Babylon, but if he can make a new series that brings back the Star Trek of DS9, I'm all for it.

You poor, poor, man.

I am actually surprised how many people haven't seen B5 around here. Especially considering that's it's the next best thing since.... well, anything on TV, really, bar perhaps selected episodes of the original trek. Indeed, people, you have Kazaa, E-mule, and whatnot to work with.

[Ace]

Another thing to add to DS9 is it seems like writers decided Sisko needed to be more agressive (plus bald with the goatee) at about the same time Sheridan got a goatee and became "Mr. Fission." (instead of Mr. Fusion )

Of course for some reason I can't help but laugh during DS9 because the actor who plays Sisko almost seems to go into a Shatner like voice pattern when at the start of the show that wasn't being done.

Maybe there's a law of physics where in Trek the acting capacity of the captain goes down exponentially during the course show?

In B5 I'd say it was the opposite. The guy who played Sinclair couldn't say a single thing without announcing it to the world and trying to be "epic" while the later captains were able to have a wider range of well... acting

[Stunaep]

Strange really, I always thought O'Hare was a lot better as Sinclair than Boxleitner as Sheridan. First, O'Hare looked a lot more captainish than Boxleitner, who looked before he got a goatee just like military jarhead pretty-boy. Plus, O'Hare had a bit more sublety.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Stunaep
Strange really, I always thought O'Hare was a lot better as Sinclair than Boxleitner as Sheridan. First, O'Hare looked a lot more captainish than Boxleitner, who looked before he got a goatee just like military jarhead pretty-boy. Plus, O'Hare had a bit more sublety.

The character was written more subtle, but his acting was pretty blunt and rough: "I AM A CAPTAIN!!!111" On the bright side though, he'd make a perfect voiceover dude for Discovery channel stuff...

Also, Sheridan was *supposed* to be a military jarhead pretty-boy.

[Stunaep]

Yes, but that doesn't mean I have to like that.