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One could only hope...it'd be interesting to see a JMS brand of Star Trek...there's a HUGE universe there with plenty of backstory and lots of room to expand.  I'm sure JMS would find a way to make things interesting...VERY interesting.

We'll see what Paramount wants to do.  If they are smart, maybe they can go in this direction...give them the freedom they need, and reinvent the franchise enough to make it interesting.
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You B5 was actually what it was because JMS pitched his story ideas ot the ST people and they rejected it - so it adapted it and created his own universe

DS9 was somewhat loosely based off his ideas
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Once i found this out [today] i could see some vauge similiarities

Cardassians = Centauri
Bajorians (sp?) = Narn
Dominion = Shadows
Sisko = Sheridan
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I wonder why he said no to working on Enterprise. There's a lot of stuff to work with there (what's already been in the show plus the events that are supposed to happen about that time) with a good writer.

Anyway, I do hope that he'll be able to get the ST series after it.
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The creators of Dark Skies AND Crusade team up with a innovative idea... there's no way that this wouldn't get cancelled after it's first season. I'd rather it didn't get off the ground at all than have that happen.

Being serious for a moment though JMS was actually offered an EP job on Enterprise a while back and turned them down.
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[color=66ff00]Not to be a pessimist but I'd be rather surprised if they said yes. From what I've read JMS had to cram two seasons worth of story into season 5 of B5. That was with a studio that suported him.

Paramount and it's flunkies have already turned him down once, I doubt they'll reconsider. Crusade didn't get a chance (much to my chagrin) and Legend of the Rangers was a bit terrible.
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Having never seen Babylon 5, (though, somewhat Ironically I know a fair bit about i through TBP and discussions on here and stuff)I can't really get excited about this. I don't think there's much more that can be done to Star Trek at this point. Enterprise is heating up and starting to get good, but it'll never be able to be as cool as DS9, and really, there aren;t too many time periods left without going into the post Voyager future, where the Federation's crazy technological advantage (From the Voyager finale) and the overall status of the Universe (Everyone's either had their arse kicked or is pretty much friendly) would lead to a fairly boring show IMO. But, there's always some hope I guess.
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I hope he has a good idea.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Having never seen Babylon 5, (though, somewhat Ironically I know a fair bit about i through TBP and discussions on here and stuff)I can't really get excited about this. I don't think there's much more that can be done to Star Trek at this point. Enterprise is heating up and starting to get good, but it'll never be able to be as cool as DS9, and really, there aren;t too many time periods left without going into the post Voyager future, where the Federation's crazy technological advantage (From the Voyager finale) and the overall status of the Universe (Everyone's either had their arse kicked or is pretty much friendly) would lead to a fairly boring show IMO. But, there's always some hope I guess.

JMS would be quite capable of turning that crazy Federation technological advantage into some sort of disadvantage with a price and consequences.
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I don't see any similarities between Babylon 5 and the Startrek Universe. I hope it stays that way! Thats what makes Sci-Fi unique - having different shows to watch with different purposes!

Personally JMS doesn't belong with Startrek, his ideas for B5 have always been mutually good and successful but due to the lack of support from the entertainment industry his great ideas get influenced by bastard executives in high positions that are ungrateful and want changes to his shows. Overall B5 was good, and Crusade could have been slightly better, Legend of the Rangers needed work but hopefully his upcoming project (non-Startrek AFAIK) will prove entertaining.

Startrek hasn't been successful ever since enterprise for the very reason they went backwards and not forwards! I think a series set in the 28th Century would have been cool. :D

btw jms' news is worth checking out here and there
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I still want to see a ST series set in the Mirror universe. :D

 

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This is as close as it gets, Star Wreck

 

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This would only be good if JMS didn't write more than two or three episodes a season. The man can plot well enough, but his dialogue-- ugg. His characters can't even go to the bathroom without making it sound epic.
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You're worried about sounding too epic in the Star "Must.Emphasize.Every.Word....KHAAAAN" Trek universe??

 

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Kirk is dead, Ricky.
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I don't see any similarities between Babylon 5 and the Startrek Universe.


Did you not watch DS9 then?

That show was very different from the other Star Trek shows precisely because it was B5-like.
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
This would only be good if JMS didn't write more than two or three episodes a season. The man can plot well enough, but his dialogue-- ugg. His characters can't even go to the bathroom without making it sound epic.



I had those thoughts about the dialogue in DS9. It often seemed somewhat stilted or was being taken too seriously.
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Originally posted by Black Wolf
Having never seen Babylon 5, (though, somewhat Ironically I know a fair bit about i through TBP and discussions on here and stuff)I can't really get excited about this. I don't think there's much more that can be done to Star Trek at this point. Enterprise is heating up and starting to get good, but it'll never be able to be as cool as DS9, and really, there aren;t too many time periods left without going into the post Voyager future, where the Federation's crazy technological advantage (From the Voyager finale) and the overall status of the Universe (Everyone's either had their arse kicked or is pretty much friendly) would lead to a fairly boring show IMO. But, there's always some hope I guess.


They must be having technical difficulties with it then, 'cause I saw nothing in Nemesis that came from Voyager besides Janeway.

Would've made for a boring show though.

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