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Michael Moore's Movie
Before I state my opinion and get shot out of the sky, the kind of political stance I take at least, I want to hear the thoughts of the people who saw Michael Moore's movie "Farenheight 9/11". Just tell me what you thought of it, and also him. After enough feedback I guess I'll throw my opinion on the table...

 

Offline Rictor

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I'de love to see it right away, but I just don't want to give Moore any money. Which means the SN route, which means that I'll be seeing it a week or so later than I would have liked. If only he had not endorsed Welsley Clark, I might be persuaded to shell out the money for the ticket, but I just can't bring myself to do it.

 

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I'll see it if I can get in for free. I already think it's a load of crap from what I've heard though.
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Much better than I expected.
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Trying to go and see it sometime soon.
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micheal moore is very good at what he does. and that is using people's emotions to achieve his own political ends. It's probably best not to see the movie so you're not taken in by his mental dark wizardry.
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Offline Rictor

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If someone is uninformed enough not to have their own opinion, and expects to have it spoon-fed to them, then they deserve to be indoctrinated. I mean, if you just blindly follow whatever some figurehead tells you, and not even a political scientist but an entertainer, then thats not my problem.

That why I'm immune to his "dark wizardry" (lol, nice one). Becuase I know a little something about what some other sources say, or at least I like to think I do, which is a bit more than I can say for Moore's average supporter. And more importantly, because I make a conscious effort to disagree with everyone who's ideas are presented to me.

In any case, Moore isn't doing anything for the left that Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, Savage or Limbagh aren't doing for the right, and they're much worse in regards to the general level of stupidity and misinformedness. Keep in mind, in a fair world, Michael Moore would have his own national TV station, several radio stations and a media that is much closer to his viewpoints than to his enemies. That is to say, he would have everything the right has today.
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We can all live in happiness that he doesn't though. :)
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i'm going to see it.  definately

 
Just saw it, took it with a grain of salt. Michael Moore I must admit is an excellent film-maker. But I can't honestly call this movie a documentary. It will NEVER be in the same boat as National Geographic. It mearly is presented as one.

Objectivity is an ESSENTIAL foundation to a documentary. This movie has an obvious Michael Moore agenda (interesting how this movie was released during a presidential election). I think I can safely call this a propoganda flick, not unlike the work of Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels (also a well thought out and put together film, essencially romanticizing the Nazi agenda and promoting social Darwinism).

On the other hand, Moore raised many questions that I am more than curious to get the answers to (especially regarding Bush - BinLadin family ties). Moore gets a gold star for bringing to light questions that seem worth the pursuit of answers for. Moore gets an "F" for exploiting the hurting the families of those who lost loved ones during the Iraqi war as well as putting an obvious spin on supposed, well-edited factual information chunks.

 

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I like how you compared Moore to a Nazi.
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Originally posted by Knight Templar
We can all live in happiness that he doesn't though. :)


I'd live in more happiness if both sides had nothing. Including no political parties. :p

I want two parties:
The we don't change anything party.
The we change everything but can't agree on what we're going to change because we all hate one another party.
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I've actually watched many of the Nazi propoganda films in my video art class. They were well put together, clever, and QUITE manipulative (and creative) with the use of half-truths. My Nazi comparison is only based on film comparison.

I do question Moore's patriotism when he says things like "Iraqi terrorists are "minutemen", American troops must shed blood"

  
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Micheal Moore Rocks, I have yet to see one person PROVE HIM to be a liar.

Someone with insight please show me where Micheal Moore is lying, i may consider re-evaluating how i feel about him. For now all anyone says is "he sucks" and to me thats not good enough proof to discredit the man.

 

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[color=66ff00]Just found a brilliant site: http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/

I've rarely seen such brilliant bias, I know Moore has his own angle on 'the truth' but the things these people do to try and discredit him are so glaringly 'Bush friendly' that I can't help but laugh.

Also notice some of the ad's on this site are rather GWBush friendly?
http://67.19.19.67/index.php/weblog/steal_this_movie/

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Originally posted by Lonestar
Micheal Moore Rocks, I have yet to see one person PROVE HIM to be a liar.

Someone with insight please show me where Micheal Moore is lying, i may consider re-evaluating how i feel about him. For now all anyone says is "he sucks" and to me thats not good enough proof to discredit the man.



I'm still doing my OWN homework on what Moore was presenting as "truth", but here is column I found on his last work "Bowling for Columbine"

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

I am also a video editor and even I understand the power of manipulation. Hell, if I were given enough facts, footage and speeches, on a given subject, I too can EASILY twist the truth into my own agenda. A couple of months back, I shot and edited a wedding for a particular couple. There was some much footage I had to take out to make it the romantic video that they expected. For fun (and being underpaid for the gig) I took the same footage and put together another video making it seem that they hate each by messing around with the order in which I presented the footage.

 
You want to know what I think?

This guys uses about the same propaganda Hitler used in his own regime. That part about "Gore won every election vote in the recount" when actually, reported in serveral newspapers, news sources, and just about everywhere else, Gore only won a single one.

And then there is the picture of the happy children in Iraq, running over grassy plains and flying a kite, all of this "Horray! Horray!" going on. Do you really think it was like that? Grassy fields? Flying kites? Horray horrah? They make it seem like we have destroyed some kind of PARADISE for christs sake.

Mr. Moore is a proagandist and a jackass. I dont like him. Even liberal and socialist people I know think he is a complete moron.

 

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I wish I had alot of money, then I could propagandist and a jackass... *grunt* go on... :p
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Originally posted by .::Tin Can::.
Mr. Moore is a proagandist and a jackass. I dont like him. Even liberal and socialist people I know think he is a complete moron.


Makes him the perfect counter to Bush then doesn't it? :D An equal and opposite force.
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