[Moonsword]

BBC News

This might be of interest to some of you guys, especially Sandwich.

[Rictor]

I wonder how many people notice the oh so subtle pro-Israeli slant, even in an article about news critical of Israel. It pisses me off, because I see this is almost every Western media outlet.

Lets not call it a wall, that has negative conotations, lets call it a barrier. A fence. That way, people think "backyard chain-link fence" instead of "towering concrete monstrosity, 15 feet tall with barbed wire and machine-gun nests". Smarmy.

(to be fair I think I remember Sandwich pointing out that in places, the wall was somewhat less fortified, but I don't think that the one negates the other. What would be interesting to somehow, I don't know how, find out what the average is.)

[Styxx]

Most of its length it's just a fence, I heard. It's only a real wall on the most critical spots.

[an0n]

There's a ****load of it that's a huge wall, but there's an equal amount that's just chain-link bakcyard fence.

[Flipside]

Israel have stated that they will ignore the judgement anyway.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Natch

[an0n]

...o, natcho man. I want to be, a natcho man!

[vyper]

Like we didn't expect that. Diplomacy only works if backed up with the threat of force... and what chance is there of someone on this side of the old iron curtain actually doing it?

[an0n]

If they're still screwing around when I take over the country, I'm just gonna send a fleet of various helicopters to rocket the **** outta the whole damn thing. The wall, the fence, the Israel tanks, a few hundred Palestinians........

[vyper]

A balanced response?

[Splinter]

Originally posted by Styxx
Most of its length it's just a fence, I heard. It's only a real wall on the most critical spots.

that massive towering wall makes up a measly 5% of the planned route... most of it is fence with barbed wire ditches and the like.

[an0n]

And where might these fences with barbed-wire and ditches be?

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Which makes the "£1,000,000 per mile" that the BBC TV report said seem very unlikely.

[Knight Templar]

I bet you it's an electric chain link fence.

[Sandwich]

The fence is a sensored fence that warns of attempts to penetrate. It is not electrified. I served for 8 months along a similar fence on the Israeli-Lebanese border on Har Dov. There's a control center that receives warnings when the sensors go off, but that's the only thing that uses electronics. And even that isn't the most reliable - it was always giving off false alarms due to plastic bags in the wind, animals, breaking down completely, etc. As a matter of fact, I have an interesting picture...

Darnnit, I can't find the pic I wanted. It was of me and a friend bouncing on a malfunctioning part of the border fence, trying to get it to report movement to Control. Shame I lost that pic. :-/ Anyway, here's another picture, of the border fence between Israel and Lebanon, circa 1998.

[Lonestar]

Im glad the UN ruled against Isreal/U.S. Fencing. I know most of you will say US has nothing to do with it......LOL

Now maybe Isreali's and Palestinians can learn to turn the other cheek.

Pisses me off to see such religiously inclined races use that religion to justify their wars. Both need to stop fighting like angry brothers and start doing things for the people and not for land.

Both countries and its people who support war need to grow up because it is possible to co-exist you just have to try until it works instead of threatening genocide on each other.

DOWN WITH THE WALL!

LONG LIVE CO-EXISTANCE!

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Lonestar
Im glad the UN ruled against Isreal/U.S. Fencing. I know most of you will say US has nothing to do with it......LOL

Which it doesn't.  More to the point, it won't work.

[Splinter]

Originally posted by ionia23


Which it doesn't.  More to the point, it won't work.

what wont work?

the barrier/wall/fence?

already working... when was the last suicide bomber attack agaisnt civilians in Israel?... we have forced them to attack our army, forcing them to "play by the rules" if you will. seems like it works to me.

[ionia23]

Originally posted by Splinter


what wont work?

the barrier/wall/fence?

already working... when was the last suicide bomber attack agaisnt civilians in Israel?... we have forced them to attack our army, forcing them to "play by the rules" if you will. seems like it works to me.

Seriously?  tell more please.  I'm not mocking, I swear.

[Ace]

I think it's all a conspiracy because they don't want bunny rabbits and critters between the countries inter-breeding because it might give people ideas that we can all live in peace